Q24 - Mr. Nance: Ms. Chan said

[jiyoonsim]

Again, I think I figured why my answer is wrong, but I'd like to have someone to check whether I'm on the right track.

C) is the right answer, because
- What Ms. Chan said was retiring from one company.
- Maybe Ms. Chan is now working for someone else or for herself (thus causing her colleague to say Ms. Chan is being busy, while staying true to Ms. Chan's comment)

D) isn't right, because
- both party sounds pretty agreeable, but D) just rejects one side flat
- In fact, the stem acknoledges this possibility by saying at least one of them is lying.

[giladedelman]

Thanks for posting!

This is kind of a weird one. I've never seen this kind of wording in an answer choice, and so I wouldn't get too worked up about it -- I think this is a relic of an older era of LSAT.

Anyway, I think your explanation is right on the money. Ms. Chan said she retired from Quad Cities
Corporation. That doesn't mean she isn't working anymore: think of all those retired athletes, for example, who continue to work as analysts on ESPN! So both her statement and her colleague's statement could be true.

So (C) is correct, I suppose, because "retirement" is equivocal language: it could mean stopping work altogether, or it could simply mean ending one particular job or career.

(A) is out because the argument uses the hearsay appropriately: I heard these two people say X and -X, so one must not be telling the real story.

(B) is incorrect because the argument doesn't criticize her.

(D) is incorrect because, like you said, this would actually mean someone definitely IS lying!

(E) is just ridiculous!

Hope that helps! Nice work.

[theanswer21324]

Is something like (A) ever a flaw on the LSAT? I've never come across it as a correct answer and was wondering if anybody had seen it. If it is a flaw, what context would it be used?

Many thanks.

[ltownsjr]

How does the first sentence fit within the argument core? I was thrown off because the argument said "But" and I figured that it was a shift so I really didn't pay too much attention to the first sent after that.

[seychelles1718]

Can someone please explain why A and D are wrong??
Thanks so much!!!

[tommywallach]

Gilad did!

[aaronwfrank]

Thanks for posting!

This is kind of a weird one. I've never seen this kind of wording in an answer choice, and so I wouldn't get too worked up about it -- I think this is a relic of an older era of LSAT.

Anyway, I think your explanation is right on the money. Ms. Chan said she retired from Quad Cities
Corporation. That doesn't mean she isn't working anymore: think of all those retired athletes, for example, who continue to work as analysts on ESPN! So both her statement and her colleague's statement could be true.

So (C) is correct, I suppose, because "retirement" is equivocal language: it could mean stopping work altogether, or it could simply mean ending one particular job or career.

(A) is out because the argument uses the hearsay appropriately: I heard these two people say X and -X, so one must not be telling the real story.

(B) is incorrect because the argument doesn't criticize her.

(D) is incorrect because, like you said, this would actually mean someone definitely IS lying!

(E) is just ridiculous!

Hope that helps! Nice work.

Right. C is the answer because she is equivocating retiring with not working at all. Just noticed this. Easy to overlook with many appealing answer choices but this is the only one that gets at the heart of the flaw.

[a8l367]

Gilad did!

Why not D?

Imagine
Ms Chan is indeed retire
and lied to her colleague saying that she wil go "blablabla"
her colleague says that Ms Chan will go "blablabla"

So both cold tell the true

[HongmeiH333]

Gilad did!

Why not D?

Imagine
Ms Chan is indeed retire
and lied to her colleague saying that she wil go "blablabla"
her colleague says that Ms Chan will go "blablabla"

So both cold tell the true

I suppose this depends on how you define "truth"
Is "truth" absolute or relative?
Since truth means "the actual facts or information about something, rather than what people think, expect, or make up", it is thus by it nuture absolute
So as for this question, her colleague may believe she is telling the truth, but in fact she is not (since she has been deceived by Ms Chan)