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Re: Q16 - "Good hunter" and " bad hunter"

by ManhattanPrepLSAT1 Fri Dec 31, 1999 8:00 pm

weiyichen1986 Wrote:Hi, I am wondering can anyone diagram this question for me?
What i have is:

GH--->Kill prey
GH---->High ratio
Wild Cat(most)--->GH
DC(some)---->GH

can i infer from here that DC(some)---->High Ratio, which is D???

Your statements look good, though remember that "some" statements can work in either direction. So I would notate them:

1. Good Hunters ---> Kill Prey
2. Good Hunters ---> High Ratio
3. Wild Cats -most-> Good Hunters
4. Domestic Cats <-some-> Good Hunters

There are many things we can infer from these claims...

1+2 = Kill Prey <-some-> High Ratio
1+3 = Wild Cats -most-> High Ratio
2+3 = Wild Cats -most-> High Ratio
1+4 = Domestic Cats <-some-> Kill Prey
2+4 = Domestic Cats <-some-> High Ratio

While I would notate the conditional/quantified statements in the stimulus, during a test I would not notate all of the potential inferences - too much work!

Answer choice (D) combines statements 2+4 and as it is a "some" statement, it can be stated either forward or backward: some domestic cats have a high muscle-to-fat ratio or some cats with a high muscle-to-fat ratio are domestic.

Let's look at the incorrect answer choices:

(A) is an interesting answer choice in that for those who use Venn Diagrams, it may appear tempting. Image
While both options express versions of the idea that all good hunters have a high muscle-to-fat ratio, the option on the left makes it appear that some cats with a high muscle-to-fat ratio are not good hunters - though this does not have to be true as can be seen from the option on the right.
(B) is tempting if we believe that "some" statements refer to something less than half, but 98% of cats would still represent "some" cats. Some simply equals one or more.
(C) represents a negation of the 2nd statement.
(E) combines statements 1+2 but arrives at the wrong quantifier. It should have said "some."

Hope that helps!


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Q16 - "Good hunter" and "bad hunter"

by weiyichen1986 Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:11 pm

Hi, I am wondering can anyone diagram this question for me?
What i have is:

GH--->Kill prey
GH---->High ratio
Wild Cat(most)--->GH
DC(some)---->GH

can i infer from here that DC(some)---->High Ratio, which is D???

I am usually not good at " most" " some" " all" inference type questions.

Appreciated.
 
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Re: Q16 - "Good hunter" and "bad hunter"

by timmydoeslsat Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:00 pm

This is a must be true question stem. I see the use of conditional logic is being tested with quantifiers. This is definitely the time to diagram.

The first sentence doesn't offer me much. OK, good hunter and bad hunter are standard terms.

Good hunters can kill prey that weigh up to half their body weight. You could diagram this, but that isn't really worth it.

Good Hunter ---> Can kill prey up to 1/2 BW

Not a very powerful statement. Notice that a bad hunter could also kill prey up to 1/2 BW. We don't know.

(1) All good hunters have a high muscle to fat ratio.

(1) GH ---> High m-f ratio

(2) Most wild cats are GH

I will attach that to statement (1).

WC MOST GH ---> High M-F ratio

(3) Some DH are GH

I will attach that to statement 1 as well.

WC MOST GH ---> High M-F ratio
DH SOME

I know WC MOST GH and I know DH SOME GH

So I can infer that DH SOME High M-F Ratio and I can infer WC MOST High M-F Ratio.
 
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Re: Q16 - "Good hunter" and "bad hunter"

by Nina Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:50 pm

hey Matt, thanks for your explanation. i got a quick question regarding answer B. i initially thought B is wrong due to the wording "a smaller number". because we don't know how many cats are actually wild and how many are domestic, we cannot compare the real number these two groups. am i right about this point?

thanks for help!