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by chike_eze Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:44 am

Can somebody point out direct evidence for the correct answer (B)?

From a general understanding of the passage, it would seem that they would object to supporting other nations, but I didn't quite get that opponents voiced this opinion specifically.

Did you arrive at answer choice (B) with direct support from the passage or by eliminating other answer choices?

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by jpchris3 Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:18 am

Hello,

I also was wondering about question B ... where does it say that tax revenues shouldn't be used to aid other countries according to those who oppose compulsory national service?
 
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by austindyoung Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:32 pm

Hope ya'll did fantastic on the LSAT. I got this question correct and circled it as hard. I was hoping to find an explanation other than my own, but I'll post my reasoning here.

So- the passage talks about opponents of national service. We are never explicitly told, from what I could find, that they are for taxes. Yet, we are never told they are against them, either.

So- we have lines 33-35 where the author states that the opponents of nat'l service by their argumentation allow for the viability of governmental demand of nat'l service- but, remember this is a hypothetical contention that is mapped out (lines 30-32)

We also have lines 36-40 where the author states, "If it is granted... that tax policies are legitimate..."- in reference to opponents of nat'l service. Then she continues with a comment about very conservative politicians agreeing to the utility of a tax.

I think that's all we have about tax. Not very definitive about what the opponents think. But, this question deals with taxes being used for national service... which gets confusing because it means that the opponents are agreeing with 4 out of the 5... whaaa?!?

But- I think I found out why...

Now- I personally kept (B) because it mentions "other nations." The turning point- once again, it is lodged within the author's elaborate hypothetical argument against opponents of nat'l service- and its that (lines 50-54) "opponents of national service must concede...[that the program of national service] is necessary..."

Necessary.

So- that did it for me. The author's argument shows that the opponents of nat'l service would have to acquiesce and allow for it to be true that national service is actually necessary in accordance with the social agreement. Now- it took all of that to have them painfully "agree" (in purview of the author's argument) with national service- there's no way in hell they are going to agree with using taxes to perform national service for another country.

That's how I got to it
 
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by alexg89 Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:26 pm

I also found this question a but strange/hard but managed to get it right on the test because B was the only answer that was really different than the others which all supported the nation directly somehow.
 
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by tzyc Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:50 pm

Still confused...
What is exactly the question asking??
And how (B) is the answer?

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by jake.rambeau Sun May 05, 2013 5:02 pm

After review, I think I found the text we can use to support the correct answer B.

In lines 40-44 the author states "even the most conservative politicians" admit that tax money is rightly spent on programs that are "of great benefit to society". So the author is making the point that pretty much everyone agrees about this, and therefore so must the opponents of compulsory national service.

So what do we know about the opponents? We know that they will definitely object to tax money being spent on anything that is NOT a great benefit to society.

Answers A, C, D and E seem like they could indeed be a benefit to society, so although we don't know for sure if the opponents would approve, we also cant say that they would object.

However if tax money was being spent for the benefit of other nations, or other societies, we can say that the opponents would probably object. Which is exactly what answer B gives us.
 
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by wgutx08 Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:44 pm

I'd say D&E are from L46-47.
A&C are from L18-19 and actually also L45: activity of the military needs a military first, of course.
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by ManhattanPrepLSAT1 Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:50 pm

Great discussion so far! I think you guys have nailed it!

We're looking for an answer choice that would most likely be found objectionable by opponents of compulsory national service. Clearly, opponents base their argument on "need." The passage works very hard to expand the scope of the term "need" to include things like quelling civil disorders, rebuilding dams and bridges, and assisting the victims of natural disasters.

To answer this question, a broad reading of the passage is probably best: the opponents' view of need is not clearly outlined, but we do see that they would prefer a narrower definition (lines 30-32). Answer choice (B) steps furthest away from the "need" of a society, by bringing the assistance outside of the society and to another society. Therefore this answer goes beyond a society's "need."

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(A) and (C) are the clearest examples of need--defense of the nation.
(D) and (E) are possibly contended examples of need, but also may be conceded--benefit to society that goes beyond defense.