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How did PTs change (old-new) over time??

by tzyc Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:42 am

I wonder how the test tendencies/difficulties change over time in LR/RC/LG...
I heard many people say LG change a lot (so doing old PTs may not help a lot??), maybe RC too (but I did not see much differences in the question types...), but not too much as for LR.
I felt the stimulus or answers become longer though...
How exactly do new ones different from old ones??
I know I should focus on new ones but I'm interested in doing some old ones as well (because I felt I need more practice...), and want to do them with keeping the differences in mind.

Thank you for the help in advance.
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Re: How did PTs change (old-new) over time??

by ohthatpatrick Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:33 pm

I think it's mainly devoted LSAT nerds that notice the changes. They're pretty subtle. I would say that Games changed the most and LR the least.

Games -
The big difference with older games is that there are more "wildcard" games ... i.e. within a Games section you might see one (or even two) games that don't really resemble anything you're used to doing. You'll still see a fairly ordinary Ordering game and a fairly ordinary Grouping game, but the other two might push your imagination/flexibility a little bit to improvise.

Modern game sections tend to have nothing but Ordering, Grouping, and Hybrids of the two. That doesn't necessarily make them easier, though. While the game types have gotten more standardized, the games themselves are often tricky versions of our standard types. I would say there's a bit of a trend away from powerful up-front deductions and more towards the laborious, "test-each-answer" type games.

Also, there is that new question type, which we call Rule Equivalency. You normally get one of those per section. The question says something like, "Which of the following rules, if substituted for [rule X], would have the same effect in determining the possibilities in the game?"

Yuck. As bad as that new question type is, though, you get ONE of them per game section. So just skip that one question and get the other 21 right. :)

READING COMP -
The big change is that starting around June 2007, one of the four RC passages is a short dual passage. Clearly, these play out a little differently from a normal passage, but not radically so.

The more subtle change I've noticed over the past ten tests or so is that there will be a few correct answer choices per RC section that stretch a little farther from the explicit text of the passage than older RC tests ever dared to do.

Again, though, this means that 2 or 3 of the 26 questions will be slightly harder/looser than they were in the past.

LOGICAL REASONING -
In older tests, you'll see more "2 for 1" questions: one stimulus, with 2 questions asked about it. That's probably a bit of a time-saver, since you don't have to read the stimulus for as long to answer the second question. So, since modern LR sections don't have those "2 for 1" questions anymore, they may feel slightly harder to finish in time.

One other subtle difference - older tests are more likely to revolve around some of the signature LSAT "recurring flaws" (of course, in the early tests, they were just OCCURRING, not RE-CURRING). Once the test taking nation became wise to LSAT's patterns, LSAT started using those recurring flaws more as trap answers.

So modern tests will often deliver the usual flaws and usual answer choices on easier questions, but it will sometimes do a "bait-and-switch" on a harder question that preys upon our knowledge of their recurring flaws. So you might read something that looks like classic "Absence of Evidence" but find that there is no answer choice that describes the flaw how they normally do. These questions test/reward flexibility.

Again, though, we're talking about 2-3 questions per test that are sort of using our knowledge of past tests against us.

Some tests just have particularly hard sections, whether it's an RC, a Games, or one of the two LR's. Remember that the difficulty of a test is supposed to balance out across all 4 sections. So if you see a really hard LR section, you might not want to attribute that to "modern LR sections" but rather just recognize that the other 3 sections from that test are likely to be relatively normal if not easier.

So, I am not at all concerned about people using older tests to prep. Certainly it's better to do the majority of your full-length timed tests with the most recent material; but I think that 90% of the older tests is true to form nowadays, so it's still an extremely useful reservoir of LSAT material.
 
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Re: How did PTs change (old-new) over time??

by AyakiK696 Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:32 pm

I know this question is from a long time ago, but would you say that the same general trend is true for more recent years? I'm currently trying to decide whether I should re-do PTs 60+ for the December LSAT, or do some new PTs in the 20-40 range to practice... I did the LR sections of PT 76 and 62 yesterday, and found them to be much more difficult than the other PTs I've taken from the 30s-50s range. I experienced quite a significant score drop so I'm wondering maybe if it's just that the distribution of the types of questions changed and I need to brush up on those particular types, or that the questions are simply harder in more recent years.
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Re: How did PTs change (old-new) over time??

by ohthatpatrick Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:25 pm

Yeah, those comments are still a pretty good summary of the changes.

Overall, modern tests tend to have
- harder readability
- less perfect correct answers

And all tests have a few surprises; we don't recognize the older tests' surprises as much because once those surprises are repeated they get normalized.

The distribution of question types changes from test to test, but you'll see "trends" for a few tests in a row where you start thinking, "Wow, Paradox questions are huge now!" and then the opposite.

I would expect people to do about 2-5 pts better overall on a test from the 20s/30s than they might from a test in the 70s.