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[justnomore.3x5s]

I am so turned around on this game. I guess first and foremost, I'm struggling on how to even set this game up. And then of course how to answer questions 7-11.

Any help would be appreciated.

[ManhattanPrepLSAT1]

The reason why you're struggling on this game is probably due to the fact that not every firefighter must be scheduled. This creates a lot of uncertainty as you approach the questions. Attached is a slide for the setup.

PT11, S1, G2_AtlasLSAT.pdf

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Take a look at the setup and see if you can work through the questions using it. The first question is an orientation question, so using the constraints you can eliminate the incorrect answer choices one by one. The rest are conditional questions, so you'll have to take the new piece of information and run with it. See what inferences you can find with each new piece of information given in the question stem.

Here's a big hint. Make sure that you have an understanding of what is possible numerically. Suppose one firefighter is scheduled more than once. Then not every firefighter will be scheduled. If there are three firefighters scheduled, then two of them will be going twice and one of them will be scheduled once. If there are four firefighters scheduled, then one of them will be scheduled twice and three of them will be scheduled once. And so on.

Try and get a handle on this and post your response for what's possible numerically and I'll come back and check to make sure you're on the right track!

[nnc786]

I'm having a hard time on question 4.

If G does not work during the week, which one of the following statements must be true?
A) F works exactly one day
B) F works exactly two days
C) I works exactly one day
D) I works exactly two days
E) J works exactly one day.

Why is the answer D? Is it because that I is a random?

[ManhattanPrepLSAT1]

Attached is a setup for question 11 and an explanation for why answer choice (D) must be true. Let me know if this helps or if you could still use some more help with it.



This one is pretty tricky... The key to these games that have either more characters than spots or more spots than characters is to run the numerical distributions.

If all 5 firefighters work than the numerical distribution would be

1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1

But if only 4 firefighters work during the week than it would be

2 - 1 - 1 - 1

And if only 3 firefighters work during the week than it would be

2 - 2 - 1

So, there are three numerical distributions possible...

To help you read the distributions, each digit represents a firefighter and the quantity of each digit represents how many days during the week that firefighter is scheduled.

[nazu.s.shaikh]

Question regarding the constraints. When a statement ( conditional) says "If H works, then G must work the following day"
in this game are we to considered that if G works does H always have to work the day work? Because as mentioned not every firefighter has to work in a schedule. So if we exclude H from a work week, is it still possible for G to work.

[ManhattanPrepLSAT1]

You're on the right track for this game! Once you see how the loss of one player affects who's going to be scheduled at all, this game becomes so much easier.

According to the constraint...

If H is scheduled, then G must be scheduled the day after H.

but if H doesn't work, then G may or not be scheduled that week.

However, if G is not scheduled, then H cannot be scheduled either.

but if G is scheduled, then H may or may not be scheduled.


Let me know if you still need help with this game. It's a tough one, because there's both the in/out aspect to the game and the ordering aspect. Games like this require more flexibility, so you have to be ready to adapt. But like always, if you have an unequal number of players and slots for an ordering game. Always run the numbers!

[nyno2010]

In the attachment, you say "If G does not work, then from the last constraint H does not work". Where do you get that from? But all we know from the last constraint is G ALWAYS follows H and just because G is not imminent, are you saying that H does not work? Please explain.

[AliceF488]

According to the rule, if H worked, then G must working in the following day. Q11 said G does not work, if H work, than G have to work, it violate the rule in Q11, so H cannot work in Q11