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Re: PT45, S3, G2 - Chess

by onyinyeoma Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:49 pm

Could someone please put up the diagram for this game? Thanks!
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Re: Diagram

by bbirdwell Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:58 pm

Here's a simple diagram. You don't need much more. Clearly, the S--O--S constraint will play a major role. Notice that there's only two ways this can be arranged: 1, 2, 3, or 2, 3 , 4.

If you wanted to, you could use frames here, but there's so much to draw that I just decided to remember it, and consider it on each problem.
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Re: Diagram

by monicaiannacone Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:14 pm

Thanks, the diagram is great. I was able to correctly setup this game and answer all 6 questions correctly. However, I was a little confused at first about which game type this is. I thought it was numbering ordering or 3D numbered ordering because of the ordering aspect of the game. What language in this game should I have been looking for to determine this was closed assignment?

In general, I'm struggling to figure out some of the game types between closed binary/closed assignment/3D numbered ordering.

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Re: Diagram

by lynn_LY0918 Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:13 am

Hi. I'm new here. It's a really helpful forum.
I also have a problem on distinguishing OPEN & CLOSED grouping games in terms of diagram. For example, in this game, "each person plays in at least one game", isn't it the cue for OPEN grouping game? But we can better tackle it by closed borad?
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Re: Diagram

by ManhattanPrepLSAT1 Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:56 pm

lynn_LY0918 Wrote:For example, in this game, "each person plays in at least one game", isn't it the cue for OPEN grouping game? But we can better tackle it by closed borad?

Good question. An Open Board is best used when you are not given the number of players to be assigned to each team. Even if you are uncertain how many times each player goes, if you are told how many players go to each team (in this case you are told that exactly two people play in each game) then it is automatically a Closed Assignment game.

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Re: Diagram

by lynn_LY0918 Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:11 pm

mattsherman Wrote:
lynn_LY0918 Wrote:For example, in this game, "each person plays in at least one game", isn't it the cue for OPEN grouping game? But we can better tackle it by closed borad?

Good question. An Open Board is best used when you are not given the number of players to be assigned to each team. Even if you are uncertain how many times each player goes, if you are told how many players go to each team (in this case you are told that exactly two people play in each game) then it is automatically a Closed Assignment game.

Hope that helps!


Thanks!

Also, from my experience, OPEN BOARD is best used when the stimuls and questions are more concerned about numerical distribution rather than specific assignments of elements which are best tackled by CLOSED BOARD. Is my understanding correct?
 
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Re: Diagram

by Nina Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:49 pm

bbirdwell Wrote:Here's a simple diagram. You don't need much more. Clearly, the S--O--S constraint will play a major role. Notice that there's only two ways this can be arranged: 1, 2, 3, or 2, 3 , 4.

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Thanks for the diagram! I just have a question regarding the S-O-S constraint: is it necessarily true that S is directly before and after O? could it also be true, for example, S in 1 and O in 3?

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Re: Diagram

by ManhattanPrepLSAT1 Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:23 pm

Nina Wrote:Thanks for the diagram! I just have a question regarding the S-O-S constraint: is it necessarily true that S is directly before and after O? could it also be true, for example, S in 1 and O in 3?

This game does require the SOS chunk to be consecutive. Notice that it says "just before" and "just after." That does mean that the SOS chunk will run 1-3 or 2-4. Hint, try frames...
 
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Re: Diagram

by olumide_francis Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:18 pm

T doesnt play in the first or the third
Does it mean neither the first nor the third? I assume so. But how am I able to confirm that it is not a "not both" condition?

Some similar condition such as the 5th condition of PT44 game 3. "the site visited 3rd from a more recent centry than does either 1st or 4th", which means 3 is more recent than BOTH 1& 4!

Any tip for such EITHER conditions?

Is it only when condition says " but not both" should we consider just one of them?

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