Diagram

[vincentjmiller]

Hi,

Do you have the diagram and explanations for this one?

It looked simple to me, but I somehow managed to miss a couple of the answers.

Thanks,

Vincent

[noah]

Vincent, There's not much to this diagram. Was there a question or inference you specifically had trouble with? If so, go ahead and spell out your thinking so we can help you.

[gethornburg]

f g h m s
1 2 3 4 5
_ _ _ | _ _
_

m<= 3
h >= 4
f ~= 1/2
l ~= 2
g .. l .. f
s is free agent ...

Solution 1.
M G L | H/F F/H
S

Template ...

g l _ h / _
_

m and s can fill the 1 space
f and m can fill the 3 space
f and s can fill the 4/5 space

[panman36]

What do you think about the use of frames here based on L?

M/
G L /M H/ /H
1 2 3 4 5

_
_ _ L (H / F)
1 2 3 4 5

[noah]

smart idea!

When I tried that, I got:

Frame 1 (L in 2):

1: M G
2: L
3: F
4: H/S
5: H/S

Frame 2 (L in 3)
1: M/S/G
2: M/S/G
3: L
4: F/H
5: F/H

(I represented a lot of this with "clouds", putting, for example, M, S and G in a cloud over years 1 and 2 in Frame 2.)

[matthew.mainen]

Yet another frame based around who's on first: MS, MG or GS.

[RachelR267]

Vincent, There's not much to this diagram. Was there a question or inference you specifically had trouble with? If so, go ahead and spell out your thinking so we can help you.

Why can't L be in 4?

[ohthatpatrick]

We have a rule that says
G - L - F

And we have six spots to put them in
__ __ | __ __ __ __
601......2...3..4..5

If we pushed L to its farthest spot, based on the G - L - F rule, we'd be putting it in 604, which would force F into 605.

__ __ | __ __ L F

The problem there is the rule that says "H is begun no earlier than 604", which means that H has to be in 604 or 605.

If we put L in 604, that forces F in 605, which leaves no room for H in either of its two legal positions.

Does that make sense?

[StephanieK821]

Hi Noah,

When I tried framing around L in 2, I got:
1: M G
2: L
3: S/F
4: S/H/F
5: S/H/F

Did I miss something and is there a reason why S cannot be in 3 and F cannot be in 4 or 5 when L is 2?

Thank you!

smart idea!

When I tried that, I got:

Frame 1 (L in 2):

1: M G
2: L
3: F
4: H/S
5: H/S

Frame 2 (L in 3)
1: M/S/G
2: M/S/G
3: L
4: F/H
5: F/H

(I represented a lot of this with "clouds", putting, for example, M, S and G in a cloud over years 1 and 2 in Frame 2.)

[ohthatpatrick]

I think his frame was messed up. I don't even see why it would have to be M and G in 601.

All of these would be possible with L in 602.
G M | L S (F H)
G M | L F (S H)
G S | L M (F H)

There's so much flexibility there, I wouldn't bother to write out more than
G m/s | L __ __ __
for that frame