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by ptraye Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:42 pm

P: Modern storytellers cannot successfully create new thematic forms without first appropriating and then dispossessing traditional storytelling forms, yet all modern storytellers are ignorant of the value of improvised song and dance.

(A1): (The value of improvised song and dance can only be learned via the dispossession of traditional forms of storytelling.)

(A2): (Storytellers unfamiliar with the value of improvised song and dance cannot appropriate traditional forms of storytelling.)

C: The successful creation of new thematic forms has been halted.

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A2 is correct. I want to tell in the logic, and try to make A1 justified with a new conclusion.

Here it goes:

Logic:
P1. CNTF ----> A & D (traditional storytelling forms)
P2. All modern storytellers ---> not know the value of improvised song and dance

A2. not familiar (know the value...) ---> not appropriate traditional forms of storytelling

C. Can't create new thematic forms.


Now, I want to try and justify A1 with a new conclusion:

P1. CNTF ----> A; CNTF ----> D (traditional storytelling forms)
P2. All modern storytellers ---> not know the value of improvised song and dance

A1. D ---> learn value of traditional song and dance

New conclusion. All modern story tellers cannot learn the value of traditional song and dance only if they cannot dispossess traditional storytelling forms.

What do you think?

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by maryadkins Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:41 pm

Your diagram of (A1) is incorrect. (A1) tells us:

The value of improvised song and dance can only be learned via the dispossession of traditional forms of storytelling.

That would mean:

learned value --> D

NOT, as you said: D ---> learned value

Notice that these are reversals of one another.

If our premises are:

P1: can create --> A&D [contrapositive: ~A or ~D --> cannot create]

P2: mod ST --> ~learn value [contrapositive: learned value --> ~mod ST]

And we add to it (A1):

learned value --> D [contrapositive: ~D --> ~learned value]

There is nothing we can link. There is no conclusion you can come up with because links are not here.