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Geometry Stratgy Guide 4th edition: Chpt 3, Pg 66 Problem 11

by Pnwankpa Mon May 25, 2015 3:17 pm

In this problem we are asked to find the value of "X" based on the figure drawn. We are presented with a clearly defined triangle with a height of 3, side 7, and side 12. The triangle attached this larger triangle has the height of "X" and an unknown base.
I attempted to solve, by using the Pythagorean theorem, however, I solved incorrectly and the explanation given on the answer page only confused me more.

Please help.
Detailed step-by-step explanation needed.

Thank you.
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Re: Geometry Stratgy Guide 4th edition: Chpt 3, Pg 66 Problem 11

by tommywallach Wed May 27, 2015 8:58 pm

Hey Pn,

You can't really use pythagoras here. To do so you'd have to do the following: Set the unknown dotted length in the bottom right corner as y.

Now solve for the WHOLE right triangle, with height x and (7+y):

x^2 + (7+y)^2 = 144

49 + 14y + y^2 + x^2 = 144

NOW, use pythagoras to solve within the triangle:

3^2 + z^2 = 7^2
9 + z^2 = 49
z^2 = 40
z = rt. 40 = 2rt.10

That means the base of the other right triangle is (12 - 2rt. 10), so we can use pythagoras again:

3 ^2 + (12 - 2rt.10)^2 = w^2

You could then TECHNICALLY solve for w. Once you have w, you can write the equation for the final right triangle (made up of two dotted lines) as x ^ 2 + y ^ 2 = w ^ 2.

From there, you can replace the x^2 + y^2 in the FIRST equation we came up with (At the top of this post), and solve for y, then x.

Phew! Don't do it!

-t
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Re: Geometry Stratgy Guide 4th edition: Chpt 3, Pg 66 Problem 11

by Pnwankpa Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:47 pm

Hello TommyWallace,

Thank you for showing another alternative to solving this problem. It seems to be an even longer process. It to me a minute to understand where you were headed, but I caught on.
Is it possible to explain this problem using the solution provided in the answer section (page 71) of the book?
I think what is keeping me from understanding the breakdown provided in the guide is that I am not seeing how 12 and 7 came to be used as bases, or the premise as to why it was solved the way it is in the book.

Thank you for replying.


tommywallach Wrote:Hey Pn,

You can't really use pythagoras here. To do so you'd have to do the following: Set the unknown dotted length in the bottom right corner as y.

Now solve for the WHOLE right triangle, with height x and (7+y):

x^2 + (7+y)^2 = 144

49 + 14y + y^2 + x^2 = 144

NOW, use pythagoras to solve within the triangle:

3^2 + z^2 = 7^2
9 + z^2 = 49
z^2 = 40
z = rt. 40 = 2rt.10

That means the base of the other right triangle is (12 - 2rt. 10), so we can use pythagoras again:

3 ^2 + (12 - 2rt.10)^2 = w^2

You could then TECHNICALLY solve for w. Once you have w, you can write the equation for the final right triangle (made up of two dotted lines) as x ^ 2 + y ^ 2 = w ^ 2.

From there, you can replace the x^2 + y^2 in the FIRST equation we came up with (At the top of this post), and solve for y, then x.

Phew! Don't do it!

-t
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Re: Geometry Stratgy Guide 4th edition: Chpt 3, Pg 66 Problem 11

by tommywallach Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:43 pm

Heyo,

I can't improve on that explanation, if that's what you're asking. If you'd like to point out some specific place in the explanation where they lost you, let me know.

-t