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x=1.5y OR 1.5x=y???

by brianjadams1 Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:27 pm

This question arose while doing #D14 p. 22 OG; however, it is a more general question. The question says "The number of parents who volunteered was 1.5 times the number of parents who neither volunteered to supervise...nor volunteered to bring..." I’m consistently jacking up the setup of problems like these. Is it 1.5Pv=Pn? Or Pv=1.5Pn? I think in this case it’s Pv=1.5Pn, right? But is there a trick to getting the setup in questions like this correct? It’s an on-going problem I’ve had. Thanks!
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Re: x=1.5y OR 1.5x=y???

by junichi Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:46 pm

brianjadams1 Wrote:This question arose while doing #D14 p. 22 OG; however, it is a more general question. The question says "The number of parents who volunteered was 1.5 times the number of parents who neither volunteered to supervise...nor volunteered to bring..." I’m consistently jacking up the setup of problems like these. Is it 1.5Pv=Pn? Or Pv=1.5Pn? I think in this case it’s Pv=1.5Pn, right? But is there a trick to getting the setup in questions like this correct? It’s an on-going problem I’ve had. Thanks!


V = Number of parents who volunteered
N = Number of parents who neither volunteered nor bring

WAS = Equal

V = 1.5N

I used to struggle with opportunity cost, so if you're absolutely stuck, here's what I would do.

The way I read it, it's "For every parent who didn't (blah), there were 1.5 parents who did". So since it's "for every", you can write it as a ratio, and then re-arrange.

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To sum up, I think there's 2 ways you can express relationships. You can say.

X WAS (half/twice/z times) Y
X = (half/twice/z times) Y

or

For every Y, there is (half/twice/z times) of X
(X/Y)=(half/twice/z times)/1
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Re: x=1.5y OR 1.5x=y???

by StaceyKoprince Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:38 pm

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Ask yourself which is bigger: The number of carrots is 1.5 times the number of rabbits.

More carrots? Or more rabbits? In this case, more carrots.

I'm going to be setting up a formula that has C = R with a 1.5 in there somewhere. What needs to get multiplied by 1.5 - the larger number or the smaller one?

The smaller one - because multiplying by 1.5 will make it larger, so that it then equals the larger number.

So in this case it's C = 1.5R.

That's the little trick: keep thinking about which one is bigger or smaller, just using your own "common sense" from reading the sentence. :)
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