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The influence of a modifier on a complete sentence

by gal.afgon Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:38 am

hey Ron,

I have a huge question for you that maybe reveal a principle I and maybe more gmat student weren't familiar with.

when you use in a sentence a modifier with V3 form does it mean that you have to use the passive voice in all of the sentence ?

for example OG 12 question 25:
you can understand that the use of v3 meant to the objects and that's why you have to use a passive or to change the modifier

**I've seen your lessons on the meaning of "based on" but I'm trying to find a different principle .

counter to that when you use a modifier with Ving form do you have to use the active voice in all of the sentence?

for example OG 13 question 62 - you can delete question B that is the most confusing just for the passive voice.

or

OG 13 question 18 - this might be not the best example but it sure did makes the point that the underlying sentence can be a modifier only if he use a v3 .


thank you.
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Re: The influence of a modifier on a complete sentence

by RonPurewal Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:22 am

Sorry, I have no idea what "V3" means. As a result, I understood literally nothing in this post.

Please explain. More importantly, give examples.
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Re: The influence of a modifier on a complete sentence

by gal.afgon Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:24 am

v3 - past participle

ex.
born,been,begun

thank you.

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Re: The influence of a modifier on a complete sentence

by RonPurewal Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:58 am

No, there's no necessary relationship between the modifier and the voice.
Remember, verb tense and verb voice have nothing to do with grammar, ever. They are always determined entirely by context.

__ing modifier, then passive:
Coming home from school, I was blown off my bike by the wind.

__ed modifier, then active:
Known for his relentless work ethic, Tom goes to the office even on Christmas Day.

And of course you can mix the voices, too. Look at OG12 #36.
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Re: The influence of a modifier on a complete sentence

by RonPurewal Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:58 am

for example OG 13 question 62 - you can delete question B that is the most confusing just for the passive voice.


No. Voice is irrelevant.
That modifier doesn't work because "Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt" doesn't describe Qin Shi Huang.



OG 13 question 18 - this might be not the best example but it sure did makes the point that the underlying sentence can be a modifier only if he use a v3


I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

The "creating" choices are wrong because (a) "creating" is not parallel to the other two things in the list, and (b) the word "and" is missing.