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SC set 27 Question 17 So dogged were Frances Perkins’investi

by Guest Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:37 pm

So dogged were Frances Perkins’investigations of the garment industry, and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, Alfred E. Smith and Franklin D. Roosevelt recruited Perkins to work within the government, rather than as a social worker.

A. and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent,
B. and lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, so that
C. her lobbying for wage and hour reform persistent, that
D. lobbying for wage and hour reform was so persistent,
E. so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform, that

Please explain this

So far I know that so x that y is an idiom. Some where in the reply it was mentioned that so x,so y that z is also an idiom.

My next question in this sentence "Frances Perkins’investigations " is possessive describing investigations of Frances Perkins and later mentioned her lobbying . So my question is

her lobbying equivalent to Frances Perkins's lobbying ( as her can be used as possessive pronoun)
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by Guest Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:10 pm

C ?
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by dbernst Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:24 pm

You are correct that "So X...That Y" is idiomatic. Thus, "So dogged were her investigations" requires a "that" prior to "Alfred Smith and Franklin Roosevelt." Eliminate A and D.

To me, your second question more concerns parallelism than strictly idiomatic construction. The two initial clauses in the sentence are comparable sentence components and thus must be presented in a manner that is structurally similar. The only choice that does so is answer choice E: "so dogged/ so persistent" is correct. Choice C, by removing the second "so," lacks proper parallelism.

As for your final question, her lobbying and Frances Perkins' lobbying are equivalent. The use of the possessive pronoun "her" simply makes the sentence less unwieldy and less repetitive.

Hope that helps.
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So dogged were Frances Perkins’investigations of the garment industry, and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, Alfred E. Smith and Franklin D. Roosevelt recruited Perkins to work within the government, rather than as a social worker.

A. and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent,
B. and lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, so that
C. her lobbying for wage and hour reform persistent, that
D. lobbying for wage and hour reform was so persistent,
E. so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform, that

Please explain this

So far I know that so x that y is an idiom. Some where in the reply it was mentioned that so x,so y that z is also an idiom.

My next question in this sentence "Frances Perkins’investigations " is possessive describing investigations of Frances Perkins and later mentioned her lobbying . So my question is

her lobbying equivalent to Frances Perkins's lobbying ( as her can be used as possessive pronoun)
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by Hei Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:34 pm

Hi Dan,

I thought that E was wrong because it missed an "and" at the beginning. No?

How come the "and" can be dropped?

The question is based on this article.
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by StaceyKoprince Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:28 pm

Hi, guys - this source is banned for using illegally copyrighted material. We can't discuss this question - sorry! :(
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by H Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:03 pm

Hi,

GMAC has added this question to GMATPrep recently. So MGMAT staffs can legally comment on it now ;-)

Could you explain what "so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform" in E functions? functions as an adjective/adverb phrase?

If it is trying to parallel to "So dogged were Frances Perkins’investigations of the garment industry", then it seems to me an "and" is needed AND a "was" is needed between "persistent" and "her lobbying"?

Thanks in advance.
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by Jack Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:32 pm

E is the correct answer for millions of reasons !
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by H Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:14 pm

Hmm...probably E really has millions of reasons to be the correct answer...

However, without knowing what "so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform" functions in E, I believe that a lot of people might cross it out because a lot of people haven't seen such construction - "so adj+verb-to-be+S1, so adj+S2, that...."

So Jack, could you tell us what "so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform" in E functions? functions as an adjective/adverb phrase? what's the grammar term?
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Re: SC set 27 Question 17 So dogged were Frances Perkins’investi

by JonathanSchneider Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:02 pm

This is very tricky, but the construction in E relates back to the construction already established at the beginning of the sentence:

"So (adjective) were FP's (noun)"

when we then say,

", and so (adjective) her (noun)"

we are just mimicking the earlier structure. This is parallel and clear.
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Re: SC set 27 Question 17 So dogged were Frances Perkins’investi

by zhuyujun Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:09 am

Hi, Jonathon,

in E, why the comma is putting before that. What's the function of this comma here? Does it make more sense to say "so...that" rather than"so..., that"?

Please help, thanks!
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Re: SC set 27 Question 17 So dogged were Frances Perkins’investi

by zhuyujun Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 am

Hi Jonathon, can you please help to answer why do need to put the comma here?

Also, I still don't understand why "and" is missed between "So ...." and "so ...." in E?

Thanks!
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Re: SC set 27 Question 17 So dogged were Frances Perkins’investi

by JonathanSchneider Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:57 pm

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Re: SC set 27 Question 17 So dogged were Frances Perkins’investi

by gkumar Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:37 pm

I can confirm that this question is indeed a GPrep question. I can provide a screenshot if needed.

Can someone please clarify why there is no "and" between "So dogged were Frances Perkins' investigations of the garment industry," and "so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform"?

Also, I am also unsure why a comma exists before "that". So dogged were Frances Perkins' investigations that .... seems to be correct.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: SC set 27 Question 17 So dogged were Frances Perkins’investi

by geetesht Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:39 am

gkumar Wrote:I can confirm that this question is indeed a GPrep question. I can provide a screenshot if needed.

Can someone please clarify why there is no "and" between "So dogged were Frances Perkins' investigations of the garment industry," and "so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform"?

Also, I am also unsure why a comma exists before "that". So dogged were Frances Perkins' investigations that .... seems to be correct.

Thanks in advance.


Please Paste the screen 'so that' MGMAT staff can continue to discuss this question!!

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Re: SC set 27 Question 17 So dogged were Frances Perkins’investi

by datakix Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:09 pm

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