SC: By merging its two publishing divisions, the

[RonPurewal]

okay, this one is my fault—you're right, the combination of 'we' and 'a child' is nonsense.
since that part of the sentence was irrelevant to the discussion, i didn't bother to be careful about writing it. (the discussion was about the relative placement of 'to my father' and the longer modifier.)

here is a better pair of examples:

I dedicated a song describing many of the times we spent together during my childhood to my father.
(not technically 'incorrect', but practically impossible to read without confusion)

I dedicated to my father a song describing many of the times we spent together during my childhood.
(good, easily readable sentence)

[AsadA969]

okay, this one is my fault—you're right, the combination of 'we' and 'a child' is nonsense.
since that part of the sentence was irrelevant to the discussion, i didn't bother to be careful about writing it. (the discussion was about the relative placement of 'to my father' and the longer modifier.)

here is a better pair of examples:

I dedicated a song describing many of the times we spent together during my childhood to my father.
(not technically 'incorrect', but practically impossible to read without confusion)

I dedicated to my father a song describing many of the times we spent together during my childhood.
(good, easily readable sentence)

No problem because you are not a machine; you are just a human being. Sometimes you may mistake. But, if GMAC makes mistake in their question pattern or mistakenly write "answer option", then how do you take it? GMAC is the name of authority; it consists of some people-the people who can't be out of mistakes because they are also human being though they are in a team!
I am writing this because most of the times you say : "Please, DO NOT fight against official Answer", if you fight against official answer, it'll be just time wasting!
Thanks

[tim]

The way to proceed here is to assume the test does not make a mistake. I'd say there is about a 1 in 1,000 chance that you'll see a mistake on a MGMAT CAT exam question, and a 1 in 1,000,000 chance you'll see a mistake on a GMAT problem. With those odds, if you think you've found a mistake, it's a pretty safe bet that it's a better use of your time to try to figure out what you did wrong rather than what the test did wrong. Keep in mind that test questions are reviewed by a large number of experts whose job is to find and fix these mistakes. When we moderators write something on the forums, we are often writing something quickly that doesn't go through that level of scrutiny, so occasionally a mistake will slip by. When it does though, we appreciate people who (politely) point it out so we can correct it. I hope this helps you to maintain your faith in the integrity of the tests you take.

[RonPurewal]

No problem because you are not a machine; you are just a human being. Sometimes you may mistake. But, if GMAC makes mistake in their question pattern or mistakenly write "answer option", then how do you take it?

i hope you're just being cheeky here. if you think this is a valid analogy, then you are vastly underestimating the resources that GMAC pours into creating the problems. (or vastly overestimating the effort required to post on the forum. or both.)
GMAC spends at least several thousand dollars PER QUESTION on writing and editing.
that's several thousand dollars ... for ONE sentence (plus five answer choices).

if i were paid $thousands for every 6 sentences i wrote on this forum, i would write absolutely perfect sentences all the time, every time.
(:

[tim]

And you would have retired years ago.

[AsadA969]

No problem because you are not a machine; you are just a human being. Sometimes you may mistake. But, if GMAC makes mistake in their question pattern or mistakenly write "answer option", then how do you take it?

i hope you're just being cheeky here. if you think this is a valid analogy, then you are vastly underestimating the resources that GMAC pours into creating the problems. (or vastly overestimating the effort required to post on the forum. or both.)
GMAC spends at least several thousand dollars PER QUESTION on writing and editing.
that's several thousand dollars ... for ONE sentence (plus five answer choices).

if i were paid $thousands for every 6 sentences i wrote on this forum, i would write absolutely perfect sentences all the time, every time.
(:

It's okay. But, if someone can find a mistake in GMAC's question or in any answer options, what will be the reward for that guys? and what will be the procedure to send this message (finding fault) to GMAC?
Thanks

[AsadA969]

No problem because you are not a machine; you are just a human being. Sometimes you may mistake. But, if GMAC makes mistake in their question pattern or mistakenly write "answer option", then how do you take it?

i hope you're just being cheeky here. if you think this is a valid analogy, then you are vastly underestimating the resources that GMAC pours into creating the problems. (or vastly overestimating the effort required to post on the forum. or both.)
GMAC spends at least several thousand dollars PER QUESTION on writing and editing.
that's several thousand dollars ... for ONE sentence (plus five answer choices).

if i were paid $thousands for every 6 sentences i wrote on this forum, i would write absolutely perfect sentences all the time, every time.
(:

It is possible by you because you are genius!

[RonPurewal]

It's okay. But, if someone can find a mistake in GMAC's question or in any answer options, what will be the reward for that guys? and what will be the procedure to send this message (finding fault) to GMAC?
Thanks

they do have a procedure.
http://www.mba.com/us/the-gmat-blog-hub ... score.aspx

but, really, if you think you've found an 'error' in an official SC question...
...no.

[AsadA969]

It's okay. But, if someone can find a mistake in GMAC's question or in any answer options, what will be the reward for that guys? and what will be the procedure to send this message (finding fault) to GMAC?
Thanks

they do have a procedure.
http://www.mba.com/us/the-gmat-blog-hub ... score.aspx

but, really, if you think you've found an 'error' in an official SC question...
...no.

I know that I may not prove any error in any official question-SC, RC, CR, PS, and DS- but I should try for using my idle brain! I believe that if I fight against something I may be able to achieve it today or tomorrow.
Ron, this link does not help me; it's just talking about "inquiry" or "Questions or Comments" or something like that. If they reward me for finding 'error' then I may proceed ! Probably, there should've a reward option for inspiring the GMAT takers' of whole the world.
Thanks

[AsadA969]

Keep in mind that test questions are reviewed by a large number of experts whose job is to find and fix these mistakes. When we moderators write something on the forums, we are often writing something quickly that doesn't go through that level of scrutiny, so occasionally a mistake will slip by. When it does though, we appreciate people who (politely) point it out so we can correct it. I hope this helps you to maintain your faith in the integrity of the tests you take.

Tim, hope you are well. I want to share something regarding your message. I think, you are trying to indicate that we (me too) behave with Manhattan GMAT instructors impolitely. But, this is not like that; this is something else. I am not a native speaker; most of the times we (the guys who are not native speaker) can't share accurately what is, actually, in our mind! My write-up is not so good. If you think that we hurt the Manhattan Instructors, your guessing will be wrong. There is no one who try to hurt the instructor (this is my personal conviction and belief); we are here to learn something from Manhattan GMAT Instructor NOT actually give pain them. You'll be astonished that I try to honor Ron Purewal in every aspects of my life-I use Ron's picture as my whats's app, mobile display, laptop desktop, skype's profile picture, and also use Ron's name (with some other digit) when I put my password in Facebook ID, Gmail ID, Skype ID. Sometimes we may be emotional in forum about our topic; that doesn't mean that our attitude is bad. Finally, I want to say that I'll honor all the GMAT instructors (especially Ron Purewal) of Manhattan Forum of the last second of my life!
I am really sorry for writing this emotional things.
Thanks to all readers....

[AsadA969]

[quote="RonPurewal"]okay, this one is my fault—you're right, the combination of 'we' and 'a child' is nonsense.



Will there be any problem if I combine 'we' and 'child' (not a child) in the following sentence?
I dedicated to one of my school friends a song describing many of the times we had spent together as child.
Thanks

[tim]

Your final example is fine, except that the last word should be "children".

I certainly did not mean to imply that you (or even the majority of users) are impolite, but sadly it does happen from time to time from some users. You have definitely been very polite in all your interactions on the forums, as near as I can tell. You bring up a good point about language proficiency too, as I'm sure not all the posters who "require an answer" or "have a doubt about an answer" (both of these are surprisingly common) mean to be as rude as those wordings come across.

I do feel compelled to point out though that if some of the things you wrote in your post are true, it seems a little weird. To some extent, I get it: I'm writing this while wearing a San Jose Sharks sweatshirt, sitting next to a Sharks blanket, a Sharks keychain, and a phone with Sharks wallpaper, but the Sharks asked for it by selling me this merchandise. I have to admit I would be a little creeped out if I heard that someone had a blanket or keychain with *my* picture on it. Your obsession with Ron (presumably as a proxy for the GMAT study process in general) *could* signal an unhealthy attachment to the GMAT. Remember, it's just one test and one part of the application process (that isn't even required by all business schools), and it will (hopefully) all be a distant memory a year from now. Sometimes that added perspective can help keep everything in its proper focus!

I hope you take this post in the spirit of friendly concern in which it is intended. Now back to the topic at hand!

[AsadA969]

^^ My final example was: I dedicated to one of my school friends a song describing many of the times we had spent together as child.
The above sentence is wrong because the wrong use number (child must be children) according to Tim, right?
If I say:
Ron dedicated to Stacey a song describing many of the times they had spent together as teachers in the Manhattan Prep.
Tim, If I use teachers here the sentence will not be correct; it looks wrong sentence.

Another analogy:
I dedicated to Ron a song describing many of the times when we had spent together in Stanford university.
So, what is the plural number of Stanford university? is it Stanford universities?
Thanks.

[RonPurewal]

Ron dedicated to Stacey a song describing many of the times they had spent together as teachers in the Manhattan Prep.
Tim, If I use teachers here the sentence will not be correct; it looks wrong sentence.

this sentence is fine.

I dedicated to Ron a song describing many of the times when we had spent together in Stanford university.
So, what is the plural number of Stanford university? is it Stanford universities?
Thanks.

???

'stanford university' should be singular, because there is only one stanford university.

i don't think i understand what you are asking.

[RonPurewal]

I use Ron's picture as my whats's app, mobile display, laptop desktop, skype's profile picture,

oh my.

i sincerely hope that this isn't true (and that you're exaggerating for some sort of comic effect).
if this is actually true, then ... um ... please change those pictures to other things.

thanks.