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Re: Providing initial evidence that

by aflaamM589 Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:55 pm

Thank you so much.
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Re: Providing initial evidence that

by RonPurewal Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:39 am

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Re: Providing initial evidence that

by JustinCKN Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:24 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
puneet124 Wrote:Dear Ron Sir
please clear my below doubt


Wrong
total amount of pollutant emitted by annually by vehicles at the O'hare International airport is twice as much annually as is emitted by the motor vehicles. in the Chicago Metro area

Right1 twice as much as is emitted annually by the motor vehicles
Right2 twice as much as is annually emitted by the motor vehicles

which one version of the right one is correct and why


the first one is right, but word order is not tested on the gmat -- mostly because it is basically impossible for non-native speakers of the language to master.
for instance, in english, "the first five problems" is correct while "the five first problems" is incorrect; in spanish, the reverse is true. there is no logical reason for either of these word orders; they just are what they are.
the gmat may test idiomatic constructions, but it won't test items that are basically impossible for non-native speakers to master. (incidentally, this is the same reason why "a/an/the" is not tested.)

the only case in which the gmat tests word order is in the case of modifier placement, in which you would want to choose the word order that places a modifier as close as possible to its intended antecedent.
for instance, i bought only groceries today implies that i didn't buy anything else today, but leaves open the possibility that i did other things besides shopping; however, i only bought groceries today implies that i didn't do anything else today at all.

no other aspect of word order will be tested.



Hi Ron:
Sorry to open this old thread.

Question 1:
I think that The first one is also wrong,
even if the "annually is moved after "emitted".(total amount of pollutant emitted by annually by vehicles at the O'hare International airport is twice as much as is emitted annually by the motor vehicles. in the Chicago Metro area)

According to previous posts, in the second part "is " emitted annually .. has no parallel in the first part of the structure. the first part doesn't say "is emitted" or "are emitted" .
Therefore the first one is incorrect.
Do you agree with me?

Question2:
according to previous posts:
I have twice the amount of money(that) you have.- correct

Is the sentence below correct ?
I have twice the amount of money as you have.
[ In my opinion it is incorrect ]

Question3:
Is the sentence below correct?
total amount of pollutant emitted annually by vehicles at the O'hare International airport is twice as much as by all motor vehicles in the Chicago Metro area ?

Ron I know that I should not create my own sentence or edit GMAT sentence. I just see these sentences in the previous posts and I wanna figure out whether these sentence are correct .

I feel shy for asking so many questions.
Thanks advanced.
Sincerely
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Re: Providing initial evidence that

by RonPurewal Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:05 am

JustinCKN Wrote:Question 1:
I think that The first one is also wrong,
even if the "annually is moved after "emitted".(total amount of pollutant emitted by annually by vehicles at the O'hare International airport is twice as much as is emitted annually by the motor vehicles. in the Chicago Metro area)


nah—consider this problem
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t3322.html

...but, again, you're doing what i've warned you several times against doing: you're still trying to judge INDIVIDUAL comparison sentences.
don't do that!
comparisons are RELATIVE JUDGMENTS, in which you COMPARE the answer choices.

you will NEVER have to look at an individual comparison sentence and say whether it's "right" or "wrong"!

if the correct answer has this kind of structure, then, you WILL be able to decide the problem in other ways.
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Re: Providing initial evidence that

by RonPurewal Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:09 am

JustinCKN Wrote:Question2:
Is the sentence below correct ?
I have twice the amount of money as you have.
[ In my opinion it is incorrect ]


that's incorrect, since there's no other half to go with "as".
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Re: Providing initial evidence that

by RonPurewal Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:09 am

Question3:
Is the sentence below correct?
total amount of pollutant emitted annually by vehicles at the O'hare International airport is twice as much as by all motor vehicles in the Chicago Metro area ?


that's not a workable sentence, but i am fairly sure that no similar example has ever showed up on this exam—and i'm also fairly sure that no similar example ever WILL show up on this exam (since this sentence looks parallel).

...again, this is EXACTLY the reason why you should NEVER "make your own versions" of GMAC's sentences—because basically all of those "altered versions" will be incorrect for reasons that aren't tested.


Ron I know that I should not create my own sentence or edit GMAT sentence.


... then don't!
(:
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Re: Providing initial evidence that

by JustinCKN Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:47 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
Question3:
Is the sentence below correct?
total amount of pollutant emitted annually by vehicles at the O'hare International airport is twice as much as by all motor vehicles in the Chicago Metro area ?


that's not a workable sentence, but i am fairly sure that no similar example has ever showed up on this exam—and i'm also fairly sure that no similar example ever WILL show up on this exam (since this sentence looks parallel).

...again, this is EXACTLY the reason why you should NEVER "make your own versions" of GMAC's sentences—because basically all of those "altered versions" will be incorrect for reasons that aren't tested.


Ron I know that I should not create my own sentence or edit GMAT sentence.


... then don't!
(:


Hi Ron:
I REALLY appreciate your patience and brilliant explanation .
It is my pleasure to see a responsible tutor like YOU.
Thanks!
Sincerely.
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Re: Providing initial evidence that

by RonPurewal Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:20 am

you're welcome.