omition of words in comparison

[aflaamM589]

Hello experts,
The words can be omitted the second time round in comparisons, we all know.
But can they be omitted the first time round?

Like Joe's build, Jain's is muscular--> allowed, no problem here.

Like Joe's, Jain's build is muscular-->Is it allowed? (omission the first time)

Like that of Joe's, Jain's build is muscular--> is it allowed?(pronoun before antecedent)

On similar note, can do/did/does come before the verb for whom they are standing
For example,
As Ronaldo did, Aflaam scored three goals : )
Is this construction acceptable?


Moreover,
Icelanders read more books than do Britishers
Here, can do be omitted since only one interpretation is possible
i.e
Icelanders read more books than do Britishers
Icelanders read more books than they read Britishers--> obviously not possible.
Since second case is not possible, can do be omitted?


Thank you very much.
Have a nice day everyone out there.

[RonPurewal]

so, what you are doing here is EXACTLY THE WRONG WAY to study for this exam.

remember—this is a multiple-choice test.
you will NEVER have to make a decision like any of the things you've put here, since, in any case similar to any of these things, you'll simply have to choose between answer choices.

keep this in mind.

also, you seem to just be making up examples at random, pretty much unrelated to any actual GMAT problem. that's at best a waste of your time, and at worst a distraction from the actual material of the exam. if you haven't seen something as an actual issue in an actual GMAT problem, then don't worry about it!

[RonPurewal]

Like Joe's, Jain's build is muscular-->Is it allowed?

this is bad writing, so it almost certainly wouldn't appear in a correct answer. but, more importantly—have you seen this as an issue in an actual GMAT problem?

a good writer would write something like "jain's build, like joe's, is..."

Like that of Joe's, Jain's build is muscular

this one is actually INCORRECT.
that of Joe = Joe's build
Joe's = Joe's build
so... if you had that of Joe's, that would have to mean "the ____ of Joe's build", where the purple blank would have to be ANOTHER noun.

[RonPurewal]

As Ronaldo did, Aflaam scored three goals : )

this is bad writing, so it almost certainly wouldn't appear in a correct answer. but, more importantly—have you seen this as an issue in an actual GMAT problem?

[RonPurewal]

Moreover,
Icelanders read more books than do Britishers
Here, can do be omitted since only one interpretation is possible
i.e
Icelanders read more books than do Britishers
Icelanders read more books than they read Britishers--> obviously not possible.
Since second case is not possible, can do be omitted?

i'm a bit confused here, since you are talking about "omission" but your first and second versions of this sentence are exactly the same.

if you meant to write the sentence as "Icelanders read more books than Britons", then, yeah, that would work.

[aflaamM589]

As Ronaldo did, Aflaam scored three goals : )

this is bad writing, so it almost certainly wouldn't appear in a correct answer. but, more importantly—have you seen this as an issue in an actual GMAT problem?

Thank you very much for your response.

MGMAT SC guide, chapter on comparisons, page 128 has similar construction marked correct.( reproduced below)
Wrong: LIKE her brother DID, Ava aced the test.
Right: AS her brother DID, Ava aced the test.

I was going through the strategy guide , encountered this sentence marked correct and was taken aback since i also was skeptical about this particular construction being correct.

Whereas, in another forum, i saw another instructor labelled similar construction as incorrect.
Got massively confused.
: )
But i am happy seeing my confusion going out of window now.

Thank you
PS: can you comment on MGMAT SC guide's example quoted above?
Are we safe considering it bad enough for it to be as correct answer choice?

[aflaamM589]

Like Joe's, Jain's build is muscular-->Is it allowed?

this is bad writing, so it almost certainly wouldn't appear in a correct answer. but, more importantly—have you seen this as an issue in an actual GMAT problem?

I can't recall since there are many problems out there and i am going through alot of material on SC nowadays.
I will get back and let you know if i come across similar construction in official material.

[aflaamM589]

Like Joe's, Jain's build is muscular-->Is it allowed?

this is bad writing, so it almost certainly wouldn't appear in a correct answer. but, more importantly—have you seen this as an issue in an actual GMAT problem?

Like that of Joe's, Jain's build is muscular

this one is actually INCORRECT.
that of Joe = Joe's build
Joe's = Joe's build
so... if you had that of Joe's, that would have to mean "the ____ of Joe's build", where the purple blank would have to be ANOTHER noun.

Like that of Joe, Jain's build is muscular.--> Is this fine?

[aflaamM589]

In omitting the words, Is following thing allowed?

Frank Lloyd Wright is best remembered today for bold designs like the Guggenheim Museum's
here the omitted word is design
Frank Lloyd Wright is best remembered today for bold designs like the Guggenheim Museum's [design]

But the word design didn't appear in the sentence( designs appear but not design)
So, just wanted to confirm that this is also incorrect.
Can you comment?

Thank you very much Ron,
God bless ya

[RonPurewal]

nah, that should be fine if you see it. there's no pronoun in that sentence, so, there's no strict need for singular/plural matching.

again, the important question—have you seen this as an issue in an actual problem?
i'm afraid you are making these issues much more complicated than they actually are.

[aflaamM589]

nah, that should be fine if you see it. there's no pronoun in that sentence, so, there's no strict need for singular/plural matching.

again, the important question—have you seen this as an issue in an actual problem?
i'm afraid you are making these issues much more complicated than they actually are.

https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t5121.html
Choice E,

Also Ron, can you comment on my above post? (reproduced below)

MGMAT SC guide, chapter on comparisons, page 128 has similar construction marked correct.( reproduced below)
Wrong: LIKE her brother DID, Ava aced the test.
Right: AS her brother DID, Ava aced the test.

I was going through the strategy guide , encountered this sentence marked correct and was taken aback since i also was skeptical about this particular construction being correct.

Moreover, since the discussion on comparison is underway, allow me to add another question regarding parallel structures in comparisons.

Aflaam relies more on MGMAT than any other forum
Aflaam relies more on MGMAT than on any other forum.

Aflaam is interested more in his studies than his social life
Aflaam is interested more in his studies than in his social life

We should read the chapter each week rather than read the whole strategy guide in one night
We should read the chapter each week rather than the whole strategy guide in one night
All these sentences are correct, am i right?
Thank you very very very much for your time and guidance.

[RonPurewal]

that first problem (about the guggenheim museum) isn't an official problem, so, i wouldn't worry about it. i'll submit that one for revision, since there's no reason to think "___'s" is an issue there.

MGMAT SC guide, chapter on comparisons, page 128 has similar construction marked correct.( reproduced below)
Wrong: LIKE her brother DID, Ava aced the test.
Right: AS her brother DID, Ava aced the test.

I was going through the strategy guide , encountered this sentence marked correct and was taken aback since i also was skeptical about this particular construction being correct.

if you see something like this, the "as her brother did" will come after the main sentence.
(that isn't what this exercise is trying to test, though. this exercise is just testing the distinction between "like" and "such as".)

[RonPurewal]

Aflaam relies more on MGMAT than any other forum
Aflaam relies more on MGMAT than on any other forum.

Aflaam is interested more in his studies than his social life
Aflaam is interested more in his studies than in his social life

We should read the chapter each week rather than read the whole strategy guide in one night
We should read the chapter each week rather than the whole strategy guide in one night
All these sentences are correct, am i right?

yeah, any of those would be acceptable.

[aflaamM589]

Thank you very very very much.
Thanks alot.
God Bless you.

[RonPurewal]

you're welcome.