omit the subject and "be" -- subordinating conjunction

[RonPurewal]

please read the forum rules-- no OG questions are allowed here. your "problem 2" was an OG item, verbatim.

if you want to ask a question about an OG item, please do so without quoting the text of the problem. (you can give an edition # and problem #.)
if you need to illustrate a structure, please come up with an example(s) in your own words. (incidentally, creating your own examples is the best way to learn these things anyway, so there's a side benefit!)

thanks.

[RonPurewal]

in fact, since you're quoting "problem 1" (with my commentary) from another thread, it would make much more sense for you to post this question on the thread where you found that item, rather than here.

thanks.

[750plus]

Ron,

I sincerely apologise for the wrong doing.

Will keep it in mind.

Warm Regards
Rajat Gugnani

[RonPurewal]

no worries.

the basic idea here is to keep the discussion of one problem in one place. (this is also the same reason why you should always search the forum for any given problem before posting about it!)

[Kevinp599]

【wrong sentences from OG】
5) Although [**Earth’s crust is**] covering the entire planet, Earth’s crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather fragmented into mobile semirigid plates.

5. In this sentence the blue part must modify the part after comma, here it is 'Earth’s crust' but it makes no sense to say,

Earth’s crust is covering the entire planet !!

So, this makes sentence wrong. If this error is eliminated sentence would be perfect. Also without this part [**Earth’s crust is**] sentence makes sense to me.

I am sorry to tell you that the 5th sentence is wrong because "Earth's crust is" is omitted. According to OG's explanation, "Earth's crust is" is needed.

OG13-74-choice E: Although covering the entire planet, Earth’s crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather fragmented into mobile semirigid plates.
【Please note that I have corrected other splits in the sentence but the ALTHOUGH part:)】

The explanation of this incorrect choice from OG is as follows:
ALTHOUGH is a conjunction and should be followed by a finite clause with a subject, not by a participle.

So it makes me confused..

Thanks!

With regard to this same question OG13-74, how can "it" a non possessive pronoun refer to the possessive earth's crust .
According to MGMAT guides ( 4th edition pg 70 ), pronouns chapter " Possessive nouns can serve as antecedents only to possessive pronouns not to subject or object pronouns"

So in this question isn't non possessive pronoun "it " referring to the possessive " earth's crust "

[Kevinp599]

Hi can some one please say something about my query, how come my question has not been attended to. Is it not a valid query? I do not think so , if there is an error in my understanding would certainly appreciate some one correcting me. Thank you.

[RonPurewal]

first of all, "crust" is not possessive, so this whole notion doesn't apply here.

[RonPurewal]

much more importantly, the "rule" to which you're referring is nothing but trouble. its potential benefit is zero, and -- as illustrated magnificently by this very discussion -- it can lead you astray very easily.

read here:
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... tml#p46683

(also, note that you're referring to an edition of the guide that is several years old. didn't you wonder why that rule was dropped from all the more recent editions? that's why.)

[RonPurewal]

Hi can some one please say something about my query, how come my question has not been attended to. Is it not a valid query? I do not think so , if there is an error in my understanding would certainly appreciate some one correcting me. Thank you.

we answer questions from oldest to newest.

if you repsond to your own post, you're putting it back to "newest" (= last).
please be patient (and remember that this service is completely free of charge!). thank you.

[CrystalSpringston]

Here's the deal with "although":

* If Although xxxxx comes BEFORE the main sentence, the "xxxxx" can be ...
... an adjective (Although exhausted, Rob continued to work);
... a modifier describing the following subject (Although in considerable debt already, Tom spent two thousand dollars on a new designer suit);
... an entire sentence.

* If although xxxxx comes AFTER the main sentence, the "xxxxx" must be another sentence in its own right.

Heck if I know what a "finite clause" is. In fact, I don't really know any grammar terms beyond the basic patrs of speech (noun, verb, adjective, etc.)

Hi Ron, do the above rules for although also apply to when/even though?
And, whether the Verbing form is included in the "modifier" you mentioned?
"a modifier describing the following subject "

Thank you!

[RonPurewal]

Hi Ron, do the above rules for although also apply to when/even though?

'even though'—i can tell you with %99.9 certainty that this should come only before an entire sentence.

'when'—can do all of the first 3 things; also NOT subject to the last restriction (e.g., you can write sentences like Peter calls me when in desperate situations, or Molly says stupid things when drunk).

[RonPurewal]

And, whether the Verbing form is included in the "modifier" you mentioned?
"a modifier describing the following subject "

you lost me here (there are no __ing constructions anywhere in that example).

perhaps the point wasn't clear enough.
in that example, the point is that in considerable debt already describes tom (the following subject), and that the existing debt makes tom's spending unexpected/ill-advised.

[CrystalSpringston]

And, whether the Verbing form is included in the "modifier" you mentioned?
"a modifier describing the following subject "

you lost me here (there are no __ing constructions anywhere in that example).

perhaps the point wasn't clear enough.
in that example, the point is that in considerable debt already describes tom (the following subject), and that the existing debt makes tom's spending unexpected/ill-advised.

Ron, pls refer to the example below：
Although running , Shelton was still late for school.

My question is whether we can construe ING form directly following "although/when/though" like we do for Verbed?
Thanks

[RonPurewal]

if your question means what i think it means, then it is addressed here:

* If Although xxxxx comes BEFORE the main sentence, the "xxxxx" can be ...
... an adjective (Although exhausted, Rob continued to work);
... a modifier describing the following subject (Although in considerable debt already, Tom spent two thousand dollars on a new designer suit);
... an entire sentence.

the __ing form satisfies both of the blue descriptions.

[CrystalSpringston]

if your question means what i think it means, then it is addressed here:

* If Although xxxxx comes BEFORE the main sentence, the "xxxxx" can be ...
... an adjective (Although exhausted, Rob continued to work);
... a modifier describing the following subject (Although in considerable debt already, Tom spent two thousand dollars on a new designer suit);
... an entire sentence.

the __ing form satisfies both of the blue descriptions.

Thanks Ron. You reply clarifies the question puzzling me a lot.