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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:36 am

long.dinh.huynh Wrote:Hi Ron,

May I ask what's wrong with D?

Thanks


That choice creates false parallelism between excited (a modifier) and predicted (a verb).

As a shorter analogy, it's like Ron, tired from working all day and went to sleep. Not only does that sentence lack parallelism, but, because of the way the modifier is incorporated into it, it's not even a sentence.
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by lindaliu9273 Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:21 am

gmatwork Wrote:In option (B) is the usage of 'and so' incorrect?

Can we use "and so" (both together or either one only)?


Hi instructors,

I have the same question. On page 195 of manhattan book : use only one connecting word at once.

I know that "because so" "although yet" cannot be used together. But is it true that any two connecting word(coordinating conjuction, subordinator) cannot be used together.

Besides, is there any other mistake with B?

I appreciate your reply.
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:14 am

Some connecting words come in pairs (e.g., "If ... then ..."), so it's unwise to generalize in this way.

Also, "so" is sometimes a connector, and sometimes not. Sometimes it's an adverb, meaning, roughly, "(by doing) what was previously described".
E.g.,
James fantasizes about jumping from an airplane, but is too afraid to do so.
or
This value is too large to be reasonable, and so must be incorrect.
Here, "so" is not a connector; it can be replaced by "for that reason". The connector here is "and".
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by lindaliu9273 Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:27 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:Some connecting words come in pairs (e.g., "If ... then ..."), so it's unwise to generalize in this way.

Also, "so" is sometimes a connector, and sometimes not. Sometimes it's an adverb, meaning, roughly, "(by doing) what was previously described".
E.g.,
James fantasizes about jumping from an airplane, but is too afraid to do so.
or
This value is too large to be reasonable, and so must be incorrect.
Here, "so" is not a connector; it can be replaced by "for that reason". The connector here is "and".


Then how can we eliminate B? Thanks!
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:45 am

In B, prospects (plural) ... was (singular).
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by aashu4uiit Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:45 pm

Ron ,

In the below example
Ron, tired from working all day and went to sleep.

if I say tired is a VERB ( expressing state of Ron) and went is also a verb hence parallel ?

So confusion is how to differentiate in such sentences between VERB and MODIFIER ?

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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:17 am

you can't "say 'tired' is a verb" there, because it's not. in that context, it's an adjective.
(the use of "tire" as a verb--e.g., these tasks tire me--is something you're altogether unlikely to see, anyway.)
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:17 am

analogy:

1/
A house built over 200 years ago...

2/
The carpenters built the entire house...

in #1, "built" is definitely a modifier of "a house". (houses don't build things, so it would be ridiculous as a verb.)

in #2, "built" is definitely a verb.

context is context. you can't override it—especially not with nonsense interpretations.
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by naval.sheth Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:38 pm

I have a doubt with C. Isn't there a change of intended meaning.

Original sentence says "Because Nikola Tesla was excited about something he predicted.."

OA C : Excited about the prospects of harnessing Niagara Falls to produce electric power, Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current, predicted...

But Option C does not show this relationship.

It just says Nikola Tesla (who was excited about something) predicted....

But we not allowed to change the meaning of the sentence right.!!
Will appreciate a response.
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:45 am

there's nothing sacred about choice (a).

• any sentence with a reasonable meaning is ok.
• any sentence with an unreasonable meaning is wrong.
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:49 am

also, i'm not seeing the difference you described.

in the problem (as posted in the first post of this thread), both choice (a) and choice (c) say that tesla was excited about "the prospects of xxxx".

sure, choice (a) uses an idiom that doesn't actually exist ("excited with"). but the source of tesla's excitement is the same in both versions.

are you looking at other choices?
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by Crisc419 Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:28 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
jp.jprasanna Wrote:
tim Wrote:Appositive / Noun Modifier , Adjective modifier , Subject - Is always WRONG..


nah, i can make correct sentences with that construction.

Already a renowned composer of symphonies, some of which have been performed by the world's best orchestras, Smith is now turning his attention to writing Broadway-style musicals.

in this example (which is correct), the difference is that the second modifier actually modifies the first modifier, so you basically have to keep those two stuck together.

the construction of choice (e) doesn't make the same kind of logical sense, because "excited about the prospects..." has no apparent connection to tesla's status as the inventor of alternating current.


(E) "excited with the prospects of harnessing Niagara falls for producing electric power" is put between "The inventory of alternating current" and " Nikola Tesla ", so it is not clear which one " ecited with .... " is modifying. Therefore, E should be eliminated. is this explanation right? If not, please correct me. many, many thanks !!
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:11 am

that's not an issue, because "inventor of the alternating current" and "nikola tesla" are the same person.
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by Crisc419 Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:07 am

RonPurewal Wrote:that's not an issue, because "inventor of the alternating current" and "nikola tesla" are the same person.


OK, cause the meaning is clear,right? Ron, very appreciate your help.
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Re: Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,

by RonPurewal Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:18 am

i'm not sure whether you're just saying "thank you", or asking another question. are you asking a question?