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MGMAT CAT II 690 (Q 47, V 37) | How accurate is it?

by adi.saraogi2001 Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:22 am

Hello All,

I just took a fully timed MGMAT CAT II (with IR) and scored a 690 (Q 47 and V 37). Please guide me how accurate are these scores as compared to GMAT PRep and the real GMAT?

Also, I scored a dismal 4.57 in IR; will be of great help if members can guide me how to improve my IR score? (specific practice material to do?)

I hope at least one of the Manhattan GMAT Instructors replies to this post and shares his/her views.

I plan to write the actual GMAT in about 4 week's time.

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Re: MGMAT CAT II 690 (Q 47, V 37) | How accurate is it?

by adi.saraogi2001 Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:59 am

Eagerly waiting for a reply .... Stacey / members, kindly share your views. Thanks
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Re: MGMAT CAT II 690 (Q 47, V 37) | How accurate is it?

by StaceyKoprince Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:20 pm

Please remember to read the forum guidelines before posting. Please don't "bump" your own post. We respond to all posts in order, oldest first, and the date of your post is based on the date of the last post in the thread, not the first. If you bump your own post, you will wait longer for a response.

Please also note that the forums are a free service, open to the public. Because of the volume of traffic we receive, it is not unusual to wait a week from the date of the last post (sometimes longer) for a response! If you see that older posts in the same folder have not yet been answered, then you know that we haven't missed you - we just haven't gotten to your question yet.

Okay, on to your question. You did IR. Did you also do the essay? If you didn't, then your Q and V scores could be artificially inflated (because you made the test shorter / less mentally challenging than the real test will be).

Did you otherwise take the test under official conditions? Two 8-minute breaks, no pausing, etc? Had you seen any of the questions before?

In general, our tests have a standard deviation of about 50 points (compared to about 30 points on the real test). So your most likely scoring range is in the 640 to 740 range. You'll be closer to 690 (or higher) if you did take the test under 100% official conditions. If you gave yourself *any* advantages that you wouldn't get on test day, then your scoring range is more likely to be lower.

We've got a number of (free) posts about IR here on the blog. We've also got an entire (not free) book, if you like studying that way. In about a month, we're going to be launching online interactive lessons (also not free)... but it sounds like that'll be too late for you.

The good news, though: our IR is generally harder than the real IR. Most people do better on the real test. So if you scored between 4 and 5 on our test, chances are good that you will score 5-6+ on the real thing, which is high enough for anyone.

Let us know if you have any other questions!
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Re: MGMAT CAT II 690 (Q 47, V 37) | How accurate is it?

by adi.saraogi2001 Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:16 am

Thanks for the reply Stacey. Apologies for 'bump'ing my own post, was not aware how the forum works.

Except writing the essay, I followed full test conditions - no pause, at a stretch, had not seen any of the questions before. (I plan to take the MGMAT CAT III this Sunday along with the essay, will post the results.)

A general observation - I found few of the CR questions tougher than OG. Yet to see if that is the general case in MGMAT CAT.

With respect to question distribution according to the difficulty level, the break up was as below

Quant (Number of question .... Nos. Right .... Nos. Wrong)

300 - 500 = 1 Q ...... 1 R ..... 0 W
600 - 700 = 4 Q ...... 3 R ..... 1 W
700 - 800 = 32 Q .... 19 R .... 13 W

Verbal (Number of question .... Nos. Right .... Nos. Wrong)

500 - 600 = 2 Q ...... 2 R .... 0 W
600 - 700 = 5 Q ...... 4 R .... 1 W
700 - 800 = 34 Q .... 20 R .... 14 W

I didn't really struggle for time in Verbal ....but had to rush through the last 2 questions in Quant.

In real GMAT, is the % of 700 - 800 questions so high? Please let me know your views.

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Re: MGMAT CAT II 690 (Q 47, V 37) | How accurate is it?

by StaceyKoprince Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:18 pm

Except writing the essay


That is a big except, actually. You made the test 30 minutes shorter for yourself and you also didn't have to spend any brain energy writing / answering that question. That's likely going to inflate your performance on the later sections of the test. Take tests under 100% official conditions, including all sections, from now on. :)

The data that you gave me is not actually useful in determining strengths and weaknesses or figuring out how you did. In addition, your question about the % of 700-800 questions on the real test... it varies for every person depending upon how they're doing on the test. I think it would be very beneficial for you to learn more about how the test works. The short answer is, at the level you're scoring, yes, you should expect to see pretty hard questions. (But that's true for anyone when you add the words "for you" - everyone should expect to see hard questions for them because that's how the test works.)

Take a look at the Scoring section of our free e-book The GMAT Uncovered. If it gets too technical (there's one section that's very technical), you can skip that section.

Give your brain a chance to rest / absorb, then read this:
https://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/inde ... lly-tests/
http://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/index ... -the-gmat/

Finally, keeping all of that in mind, use the below to analyze your most recent MGMAT CAT(s):
http://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/index ... ice-tests/

Figure out what you think you should do based on that analysis. Then come back here and tell us; we'll tell you whether we agree and advise you further. (Note: do share an analysis with us, not just the raw data. Part of getting better is developing your ability to analyze your results - figure out what they mean and what you think you should do about them!)
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