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Martin's cafe CR question

by career.sumit Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:26 am

When a new restaurant, Martin’s Cafe, opened in Riverville last year, many people predicted that business at the Wildflower Inn, Riverville’s only other restaurant, would suffer from the competition. Surprisingly, however, in the year since Martin’s Cafe
opened, the average number of meals per night served at the Wildflower Inn has increased significantly.

Which of the following, if true, most helps to explain the increase?
A. Unlike the Wildflower Inn, Martin’s Cafe serves considerably more meals on weekends than it does on weekdays.
B. Most of the customers of Martin’s Cafe had never dined in Riverville before this restaurant opened, and on most days Martin’s Cafe attracts more customers than it can seat.
C. The profit per meal is higher, on average, for meals served at Martin’s Cafe than for those served at the Wildflower Inn.
D. The Wildflower Inn is not open on Sundays, and therefore Riverville residents who choose to dine out on that day must either eat at Martin’s Cafe or go to neighboring towns to eat.
E. A significant proportion of the staff at Martin’s Cafe are people who formerly worked at the Wildflower Inn and were hired away by the owner of Martin’s Cafe

this question is from Gmat prep
i am confused bwtween B and E
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by career.sumit Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:37 am

surprisingly, so many views and no reply till now.
I guess i figured it out....
the answer is B because, people in Riverville had never dined outside until Martin's cafe opened up. Martin's cafe attracts more customer than it can actually serve, so these people who do not get a seat, instead of going back home, went to the other restaurant - wildflower inn. As a result, the meals served at wildflower has increased significantly.
I hope i have given the right reasoning.
Can anyone help ??
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by thanghnvn Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:40 am

I agree B.

but, Stacey, Ron, pls, help

Is paradox question is based on an assumption?
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by RonPurewal Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:43 am

career.sumit Wrote:surprisingly, so many views and no reply till now.


you posted this less than 36 hours after your first post ...
... on the weekend.
what is "surprising"?

we answer questions in order from oldest to newest. during peak application times, we are sometimes behind by a week or two.

because we answer questions from oldest to newest, "bumping" a thread -- i.e., making another post that asks "where's my answer?" -- moves the thread back to last place in the queue. (not to mention that it is rude and unprofessional, especially after such a short time.)

I guess i figured it out....
the answer is B because, people in Riverville had never dined outside until Martin's cafe opened up. Martin's cafe attracts more customer than it can actually serve, so these people who do not get a seat, instead of going back home, went to the other restaurant - wildflower inn. As a result, the meals served at wildflower has increased significantly.
I hope i have given the right reasoning.


yes.

also, choice (e) is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand -- the career histories of the two restaurants' workers have absolutely nothing to do with how many meals are served at the restaurants.
in fact, if you did not reject choice (e) immediately, then you are not sufficiently focused on what is actually in the argument vs. what is not in the argument.
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by RonPurewal Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:51 am

thanghnvn Wrote:I agree B.

but, Stacey, Ron, pls, help

Is paradox question is based on an assumption?


i'm sorry; i don't understand your question. however, there is a 1.5-hour lecture on this problem type here:
http://www.manhattangmat.com/thursdays-with-ron.cfm
check out the lecture dated february 3, 2011.
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by career.sumit Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:18 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
career.sumit Wrote:surprisingly, so many views and no reply till now.


you posted this less than 36 hours after your first post ...
... on the weekend.
what is "surprising"?

we answer questions in order from oldest to newest. during peak application times, we are sometimes behind by a week or two.

because we answer questions from oldest to newest, "bumping" a thread -- i.e., making another post that asks "where's my answer?" -- moves the thread back to last place in the queue. (not to mention that it is rude and unprofessional, especially after such a short time.)

I guess i figured it out....
the answer is B because, people in Riverville had never dined outside until Martin's cafe opened up. Martin's cafe attracts more customer than it can actually serve, so these people who do not get a seat, instead of going back home, went to the other restaurant - wildflower inn. As a result, the meals served at wildflower has increased significantly.
I hope i have given the right reasoning.


yes.

also, choice (e) is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand -- the career histories of the two restaurants' workers have absolutely nothing to do with how many meals are served at the restaurants.
in fact, if you did not reject choice (e) immediately, then you are not sufficiently focused on what is actually in the argument vs. what is not in the argument.





I dont understand that how am i being rude or unprofessional, but i am new to this site, as a newcomer it was disheartening to see so many people viewing the question and not answering it. Going by the reputation of Manhattan, i expected an answer sooner. But anyways, now that you have told me the process, i understand it and will wait for the answer accordingly.
And apologies from my side if i sounded rude.
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by RonPurewal Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:56 am

career.sumit Wrote:I dont understand that how am i being rude or unprofessional ... i expected an answer sooner.


sumit, you posted your question late on a saturday night, and then posted a "reminder post" in the dark hours of monday morning. as an aspiring business manager who (presumably) expects to deal with american businesses, you should definitely realize that this is Not Okay.


But anyways, now that you have told me the process, i understand it and will wait for the answer accordingly.
And apologies from my side if i sounded rude.


the lower part of my response above contained the response to your query.
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by lemonperb Tue May 27, 2014 9:09 am

career.sumit Wrote:When a new restaurant, Martin’s Cafe, opened in Riverville last year, many people predicted that business at the Wildflower Inn, Riverville’s only other restaurant, would suffer from the competition. Surprisingly, however, in the year since Martin’s Cafe
opened, the average number of meals per night served at the Wildflower Inn has increased significantly.

Which of the following, if true, most helps to explain the increase?
A. Unlike the Wildflower Inn, Martin’s Cafe serves considerably more meals on weekends than it does on weekdays.
B. Most of the customers of Martin’s Cafe had never dined in Riverville before this restaurant opened, and on most days Martin’s Cafe attracts more customers than it can seat.
C. The profit per meal is higher, on average, for meals served at Martin’s Cafe than for those served at the Wildflower Inn.
D. The Wildflower Inn is not open on Sundays, and therefore Riverville residents who choose to dine out on that day must either eat at Martin’s Cafe or go to neighboring towns to eat.
E. A significant proportion of the staff at Martin’s Cafe are people who formerly worked at the Wildflower Inn and were hired away by the owner of Martin’s Cafe

this question is from Gmat prep
i am confused bwtween B and E


Hi GMAT instructors,
I wonder in "A" is it because no relevance of the number of people dine on weekdays and weekends is shown so that A is wrong?
What if the an additional premise --"People are more inclined to go to restaurant on weekdays than on weekends" is add, will "A" be right then?
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by RonPurewal Fri May 30, 2014 1:11 am

lemonperb Wrote:What if the an additional premise --"People are more inclined to go to restaurant on weekdays than on weekends" is add, will "A" be right then?


This would make no difference.
Even with this extra premise, there's still no connection between the fortunes of the two restaurants.

Remember, you're not looking for any random reason why the W.I. might be doing more business. You're specifically looking for a reason why the W.I. has been doing so much more business since the other restaurant opened.
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by lemonperb Sat May 31, 2014 9:40 am

RonPurewal Wrote:This would make no difference.
Even with this extra premise, there's still no connection between the fortunes of the two restaurants.

Remember, you're not looking for any random reason why the W.I. might be doing more business. You're specifically looking for a reason why the W.I. has been doing so much more business since the other restaurant opened.


Hi Ron, Thank you for your explanation.
But I am still confused. Why the extra premise I added in A is a random reason? Unlike the Wildflower Inn, Martin’s Cafe serves considerably more meals on weekends than it does on weekdays. People are more inclined to go to restaurant on weekdays than on weekends. ->W.I. serves more meals on weekdays. Thus W.I. has been doing more business compared with M.C.
Please tell me where am I wrong? It will be better if you can provide some analogies. Thanks.
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Re: Martin's cafe CR question

by RonPurewal Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:22 pm

The point of the passage is that, when MC opened, WI experienced an increase in business.
So, we need a reason that's tangibly related to the opening of MC. Any reason unrelated to MC will fail to explain what is noted here.

Your statement could explain why WI might do more business than MC, but does nothing to explain the increase in business for WI itself.