Verbal question you found somewhere else? General issue with idioms or grammar? Random verbal question? These questions belong here.
CrystalSpringston
Students
 
Posts: 129
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:13 am
 

Like X, Y....

by CrystalSpringston Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:14 pm

Hi Instructor,
regarding to the common parallel construction Like X, Y....(when X and Y are nouns)
Is it necessary to always keep X and Y the same sigular or plural form?

For example:
Like apples, pears are usually popular in this city.

can we say:
Like apples, the pear is usually popular in this city.
or
Like the apple, pears are usually popular in this city.

And is it applicable to other comprison words ?

Thank you!
Chelsey Cooley
Forum Guests
 
Posts: 107
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:49 am
 

Re: Like X, Y....

by Chelsey Cooley Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:46 pm

This isn't a technical grammar rule, just a matter of what makes logical sense (as is often the case with comparisons!).

If you really are logically comparing many things to one thing, then using a singular and a plural noun is fine:

Like my bicycles, my car is well-maintained.

I have multiple bicycles, and all of those bicycles are similar to my car. Totally fine.

On the other hand, it doesn't make much sense to compare a single apple to multiple pears - and if there's no good reason to do it, don't. Your example is complicated slightly by the use of the 'class singular' (i.e. 'The majestic lion is in danger of extinction'), but it still doesn't make much sense to compare a single abstract group of apples to multiple pears (or vice versa.)
CrystalSpringston
Students
 
Posts: 129
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:13 am
 

Re: Like X, Y....

by CrystalSpringston Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:08 pm

Chelsey Cooley Wrote:This isn't a technical grammar rule, just a matter of what makes logical sense (as is often the case with comparisons!).

If you really are logically comparing many things to one thing, then using a singular and a plural noun is fine:

Like my bicycles, my car is well-maintained.

I have multiple bicycles, and all of those bicycles are similar to my car. Totally fine.

On the other hand, it doesn't make much sense to compare a single apple to multiple pears - and if there's no good reason to do it, don't. Your example is complicated slightly by the use of the 'class singular' (i.e. 'The majestic lion is in danger of extinction'), but it still doesn't make much sense to compare a single abstract group of apples to multiple pears (or vice versa.)


Thank you. I get what you mean. It depends on the context and no such rules on the strict parallelism: singular to singular, plural to plural.
RonPurewal
Students
 
Posts: 19744
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:23 am
 

Re: Like X, Y....

by RonPurewal Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:04 pm

yep,
like every other aspect of meaning, this is determined by context + good old-fashioned common sense.