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even though vs although

by jitenderjain065 Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:29 am

a lot of questions have options of even though/although, in which many a times although wins...
but not able to get the difference between two

experts please help
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Re: even though vs although

by goelmohit2002 Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:27 pm

As far as I know they are both equally correct...

GMAT does not prefer one over the other....
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Re: even though vs although

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:21 am

context-wise, these two are largely equivalent. there are minor rhetorical differences, but those are well beyond the scope of what will determine right/wrong answers on the test.

there's one major grammatical difference, though, which is this:
even though MUST be used with complete clauses.
although can be used with fragments.
example: james, although tired from working all day, went to the club with his friends. --> this sentence wouldn't work with "even though"
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Re: even though vs although

by rohit21384 Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:34 am

RonPurewal Wrote:context-wise, these two are largely equivalent. there are minor rhetorical differences, but those are well beyond the scope of what will determine right/wrong answers on the test.

there's one major grammatical difference, though, which is this:
even though MUST be used with complete clauses.
although can be used with fragments.
example: james, although tired from working all day, went to the club with his friends. --> this sentence wouldn't work with "even though"


Ron,

I have gone through OG-12; there it is mentioned that "although" usually introduces clause.
I read in your post in this forum that subordinator - "While" can be used with ing-participle, adjective, or whole clause.

I would like to know more about the usage of following subordinators.

1) that
2)just as
3) whereas
4) since
5)when
6)unless
7)which
8)because
9) Before/ After

I know that these subordinators can be used to introduce clause, but can they be used to introduce phrases or can they be used with ing-participle or adjectives.

Rohit
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Re: even though vs although

by goelmohit2002 Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:40 am

RonPurewal Wrote:context-wise, these two are largely equivalent. there are minor rhetorical differences, but those are well beyond the scope of what will determine right/wrong answers on the test.

there's one major grammatical difference, though, which is this:
even though MUST be used with complete clauses.
although can be used with fragments.
example: james, although tired from working all day, went to the club with his friends. --> this sentence wouldn't work with "even though"


Hi Ron,

I was of the opinion that Although needs to be followed by complete clause.

Can you please look into Q#14 of OG-12. Here option C and D are kicked out by OG based on the fact that Although is not followed by complete clause. But as per your above explnation it seems that allthough can be followed by phrases too...

I am really confused.

Can you please tell can there be some other reason for kicking out C and D in Q#14 of OG-12.....or Although needs to be always followed by complete clause ?

Thanks
Mohit
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Re: even though vs although

by RonPurewal Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:48 am

rohit21384 Wrote:1) that


when it's used as a subordinator, "that" comes before a whole clause.
since there are so many other uses of "that", though, you should be extremely careful before committing this to memory as any sort of rule.


2)just as


when this is a subordinator, it should come before a clause.

it's possible that "just as" could be used with prepositional phrases, though (just as in the last four games...). i haven't seen anything in official problems that would either endorse or rule out this possibility.

3) whereas


always followed by a clause.

4) since


always followed by a clause, unless it's being used as a preposition ("since 1962...")

5)when


can be followed by a whole clause, but can also just be followed by a past participle (this material will explode when placed in a humid environment)

6)unless


same as #5

7)which


not a subordinator at all; this is a relative pronoun.

8)because


followed by a clause.
"because OF" should be followed by a noun (or noun phrase).

9) Before/ After


these can be followed by clauses, but they can also be followed by all kinds of other things. e.g., they can be followed by -ing participles, or nouns (in which case they basically function as prepositions).