Credit with/credit to

[nafisa.t.hasan]

I have general question when to use either idiom. I know that from the guide you use "credit with" when you want to credit somebody with an accomplishment. When would you use credit to?

[jlucero]

I have general question when to use either idiom. I know that from the guide you use "credit with" when you want to credit somebody with an accomplishment. When would you use credit to?

Idioms are sometimes tough for native English speakers, but as best as I can tell, when you can answer the question Where or To Whom am I giving credit?

I want to give credit to John (where? to John)
You are a credit to your family (to whom? to your family)

credit to = someone for doing something (noun)
credit with = doing something (verb)

[750plus]

I am still confused with the usage of credit with, credit for and credit to. Below is the official sentence -

​Pablo Picasso, the late Spanish painter, credited African art with having had a strong influence on his work.

A. with having had - Official Answer
B. for its having
C. to have had
D. for having
E. in that it had​

Do we use credit with only when credit is used as a verb ? Also, I am unable to understand when to use credit to and when to use credit for.

Thanks

[RonPurewal]

per the forum rules, we need a citation of the original source of this problem.

thanks.

[750plus]

I got this question from GMAC practice question of a week on Twitter. Below is the screenshot that I've taken so as to give you a confirmation on the same.

http://postimg.org/image/46mwj20nd/

Let me know if this is not allowed. I will delete my post.

Thank You

[RonPurewal]

hmm, interesting.

this problem is a perfect example of a very old problem that was purged from the official books a long, long time ago (it was last seen in the 10th edition—that's four editions and over 10 years ago), and that no longer reflects what will actually be tested on the exam.

it's worrisome that they are resurrecting these questions as social-media teasers. if this is a consistent habit of theirs—using outdated/purged problems as 'free problems of the week'—then you'd be best advised to avoid the 'problems of the week' altogether.
HMM.

[RonPurewal]

--- YOU WON'T NEED TO KNOW THIS ON THE EXAM ---

(but in case you're just interested...)

the standard usage here is 'credit with'.

'credit for' is generally restricted to financial usages (Your account was credited for the value of the transaction.)

'credit to...' isn't a thing at all.

--- YOU WON'T NEED TO KNOW THIS ON THE EXAM ---

[750plus]

hmm, interesting.

this problem is a perfect example of a very old problem that was purged from the official books a long, long time ago (it was last seen in the 10th edition—that's four editions and over 10 years ago), and that no longer reflects what will actually be tested on the exam.

it's worrisome that they are resurrecting these questions as social-media teasers. if this is a consistent habit of theirs—using outdated/purged problems as 'free problems of the week'—then you'd be best advised to avoid the 'problems of the week' altogether.
HMM.

I see your point Mr. Purewal. But the GMAC guys have pulled some GMAT Paper Based questions and OG 10th Edition questions in the Paid Question Pack. And that 'some' is quite a number. I have Googled and discovered the same. I don't know if you'd advise me to refrain myself from those as well. It'd be great to hear your view on that as well.

Thank You

Warm Regards

[750plus]

--- YOU WON'T NEED TO KNOW THIS ON THE EXAM ---

(but in case you're just interested...)

the standard usage here is 'credit with'.

'credit for' is generally restricted to financial usages (Your account was credited for the value of the transaction.)

'credit to...' isn't a thing at all.

--- YOU WON'T NEED TO KNOW THIS ON THE EXAM ---

Thanks. I got your point in regard with 'credit to' although I have a question on 'credit for'. Below is a GMAT Prep correct answer that uses ' Credit for' and it is not restricted to financial usages (in my understanding)

Neither Roosevelt nor Perkins sought recognition by the press, and both cautiously allowed others of the Roosevelt brain trust to take credit for the genesis of historic programs in public employment, relief, and social security for which the two women were in large measure responsible.

Please if you can update me.

Thank You.

[RonPurewal]

ah, that's the noun 'credit'... in other words, a completely different word.

if two words look and sound the same, but play different grammatical roles, then you need to think of them as different and—insofar as grammar and idiomatic usage are concerned—unrelated.
(it's likely that their meanings will be related in some way, but NOTHING about grammar and/or idioms will necessarily carry over from one to the other.)

e.g.,
Robert doesn't have enough water to water the plants that he plants.
this sentence does not contain any word more than once.
'water' (noun) and 'water' (verb) are two different words.
so are 'plants' (noun) and 'plants' (verb).

[aflaamM589]

hmm, interesting.

this problem is a perfect example of a very old problem that was purged from the official books a long, long time ago (it was last seen in the 10th edition—that's four editions and over 10 years ago), and that no longer reflects what will actually be tested on the exam.

it's worrisome that they are resurrecting these questions as social-media teasers. if this is a consistent habit of theirs—using outdated/purged problems as 'free problems of the week'—then you'd be best advised to avoid the 'problems of the week' altogether.
HMM.

Exam pack 2, released april 22 2016, has also material republished ad-verbatim from paper tests and some very old material, material that has been under discussion on this and other forums since 2007
Ron, how you feel about this resurrection of old material?
What are your thoughts?
P.S: i can email you the questions that are repeated in EP2 from paper tests if you ask

[750plus]

hmm, interesting.

this problem is a perfect example of a very old problem that was purged from the official books a long, long time ago (it was last seen in the 10th edition—that's four editions and over 10 years ago), and that no longer reflects what will actually be tested on the exam.

it's worrisome that they are resurrecting these questions as social-media teasers. if this is a consistent habit of theirs—using outdated/purged problems as 'free problems of the week'—then you'd be best advised to avoid the 'problems of the week' altogether.
HMM.

Exam pack 2, released april 22 2016, has also material republished ad-verbatim from paper tests and some very old material, material that has been under discussion on this and other forums since 2007
Ron, how you feel about this resurrection of old material?
What are your thoughts?
P.S: i can email you the questions that are repeated in EP2 from paper tests if you ask

I have been observing that lately too.

[RonPurewal]

well, it doesn't surprise me that this would be true for problems they give away for free! (:

in any case, this thread is now locked, since we've determined that the problem comes from a disallowed source.