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Although William Pereira first gained national recognition

by bangu Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:47 pm

This question is from MGMAT CAT examination.

Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will remember him as the architect of the Transamerica Tower, the Malibu campus of Pepperdine University, and the city of Irvine.

A) including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will
B) like those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations
C) like that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will
D) including that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will
E) including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations

I think that "William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind,"", should be the correct answer, because "that" is referring to "the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind,"" and not to the "movie set designs". If we take the sentence as it is, then it may mean "William gained multiple recognition's for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind,"".

Please correct me if wrong.
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by rfernandez Fri May 02, 2008 3:37 pm

This problem was discussed elsewhere on this forum; please search before you post.

Here's the link: http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/post8341.html

Your particular question was not addressed there, though.


Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will remember him as the architect of the Transamerica Tower, the Malibu campus of Pepperdine University, and the city of Irvine.

A) including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will
B) like those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations
C) like that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will
D) including that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will
E) including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations





I think that "William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind,"", should be the correct answer, because "that" is referring to "the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind,"" and not to the "movie set designs". If we take the sentence as it is, then it may mean "William gained multiple recognition's for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind,"".


If, in fact, you're right, then we should be able to replace "that" with "the 1942 film 'Reap the Wild Wind.'" Let's try it:

William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind,
becomes
William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including the 1942 film 'Reap the Wild Wind' for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind,

The correct antecedent is "movie set designs."

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by DCE Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:01 am

Hi

On Similar lines why cannot 'that' refer to 'national recognition' ?

William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including the 'national recognition' for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind, ....

Thanks and Regards,
DCE
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by rfernandez Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:58 am

There's a change in meaning. He does not get national recognition for the films, he gets it for the set designs. That's why "that" can't be an antecedent for "national recognition."

I hope that makes sense.
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Re: Although William Pereira first gained national recognition

by jzoom1 Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:48 am

Hi,

I am referring to this question as it appears in the Sentence Correction Strategy Guide (Fourth Edition, page 15). The form in which it appears in the SC Strategy Guide is seemingly a bit different than what the original poster quoted. Here is how it appears in my SC Strategy Guide:

Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations remember him as the architect of the Transamerica Tower, the Malibu campus of Pepperdine University, and the city of Irvine.

(A) including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations
(B) like that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will
(C) like those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations
(D) including that for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will
(E) including those for the 1942 film "Reap the Wild Wind," future generations will


The Sentence Correction Guide states that (E) is correct, and says this is because the usage of the pronoun "that" is incorrect because "movie set designs" is plural and therefore "those" must be used. It seems to me like the usage of "those" assumes that every movie will have more than one movie set design. But is it not possible a movie only needs a single movie set design? If that's the case then wouldn't "that" be correct? I say this because "that" could refer to a *single* movie set design used in the film "Reap the Wild Wind." Is my reasoning incorrect? If so, can you clarify? Thanks.
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Re: Although William Pereira first gained national recognition

by tim Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:20 am

Yes, your reasoning is incorrect. Use of "those" here does not imply that all movies have multiple set designs, but it does imply that this movie had multiple set designs. Unless it is clear that this is not true, there is no reason to question the use of "those". On the other hand, "that" is very definitely inappropriate here, because there is no appropriate singular antecedent for "that" to refer to. If the movie in question in fact had only one set design and that needed to be conveyed, it would therefore be impossible to use a pronoun at all here and you would have to use "the set design" rather than "that" or "those"..
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Re: Although William Pereira first gained national recognition

by AnooshehK513 Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:20 am

Dear Instructors,
Why is there a comma before " including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,”". This ing modifier is clearly a noun modifier and not a clause/adverbial modifier. I thought that comma ing is always a clause modifier for which the subject is the same as the clause it modifies!

Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations will remember him as the architect of the Transamerica Tower, the Malibu campus of Pepperdine University, and the city of Irvine.
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Re: Although William Pereira first gained national recognition

by Sage Pearce-Higgins Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:31 pm

That's not a rule! Lots of noun modifiers have a comma before them. Take, for example:
Rey, who works for Manhattan Prep, has a beard.
Noah, an instructor for Manhattan Prep, plays rock music.


However, this use of 'including' is more giving examples than acting as a regular -ing modifier. You could replace it with 'such as' and the sentence would work well.

The grammar of modifiers is pretty complicated, so don't just rely on rules. Ask yourself the question, 'does this sentence make sense?' as well.