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A certain list consists of several different integers.

by Guest Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:36 pm

A certain list consists of several different integers. Is the product of the all the integers in the list positive?

1. The product of the greatest and smallest integer in the list is positive.
2. There is an even number of integers in the list.

I thought that E is the answer. Each statement is insufficient by itslef. When combined, I can have 4 integers. Let's say the smallest and the largest are both positive. The two numbers in between can be either positive, or one negative and one positive, which makes the product either positive and negative. Therefore, answer E.

The OA is C. Can someone please point the error in my logic or suggest a solution to the problem?

Thanks
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Re: A certain list consists of several different integers.

by San Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:50 am

Anonymous Wrote:A certain list consists of several different integers. Is the product of the all the integers in the list positive?

1. The product of the greatest and smallest integer in the list is positive.
2. There is an even number of integers in the list.

I thought that E is the answer. Each statement is insufficient by itslef. When combined, I can have 4 integers. Let's say the smallest and the largest are both positive. The two numbers in between can be either positive, or one negative and one positive, which makes the product either positive and negative. Therefore, answer E.

The OA is C. Can someone please point the error in my logic or suggest a solution to the problem?

Thanks


That was exactly what I thought when I did that question on gmat prep. I also came out the answer with E. so far, I still have a hard time to convince myself the answer is actually C
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by Guest Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:37 am

Instructors,

Would you please help to justify answer C?

Thank you.
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by Dan Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:43 am

Think about it this way

1) If the list has an odd number of items: -3,-2,-1, it satisifies the condition that product of the lowest and greatest value is positive, but the product of all the integers is negative.
2) The list can be -3,-2,-1,0, which would result in a negative product. However, if we take into consideration #1, then we have: -4,-3,-2,-1. This will be positive.

Therefore the answer is C.
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Re: A certain list consists of several different integers.

by Guest Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:39 am

Anonymous Wrote:A certain list consists of several different integers. Is the product of the all the integers in the list positive?

1. The product of the greatest and smallest integer in the list is positive.
2. There is an even number of integers in the list.

The OA is C. Can someone please point the error in my logic or suggest a solution to the problem?

Thanks


Considering original answer i.e. C.

If we arrange the 4 sample numbers in their increasing order, there are only 2 possible combinations, i.e. all 4 numbers are either negative or as positive:
++++
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Any other other combination is invalid because the smallest and the greatest integers must have the same sign to satisfy statement 1. The product of both these valid combinations is positive.

For further read on the same question, see the link below:
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/a-c ... t1002.html
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Re: A certain list consists of several different integers.

by RonPurewal Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:28 am

Anonymous Wrote:
Anonymous Wrote:A certain list consists of several different integers. Is the product of the all the integers in the list positive?

1. The product of the greatest and smallest integer in the list is positive.
2. There is an even number of integers in the list.

The OA is C. Can someone please point the error in my logic or suggest a solution to the problem?

Thanks


Considering original answer i.e. C.

If we arrange the 4 sample numbers in their increasing order, there are only 2 possible combinations, i.e. all 4 numbers are either negative or as positive:
++++
----

Any other other combination is invalid because the smallest and the greatest integers must have the same sign to satisfy statement 1. The product of both these valid combinations is positive.

For further read on the same question, see the link below:
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/a-c ... t1002.html


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Re: A certain list consists of several different integers.

by navi.srm Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:55 pm

Hello Ron,

Don't you think the question must have been rephrased something like 'sequence of numbers' or 'arranged in order'? Because I can take random sequence of numbers and can prove option 'e' will be correct for this.

Suppose I take list as 2, -3, 10, 4. In this case, both the conditions satisfy and still I end up in an ambiguous answer and s option 'e'.

Please let me know if I my thinking process is wrong.
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Re: A certain list consists of several different integers.

by RonPurewal Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:08 am

navi.srm Wrote:Hello Ron,

Don't you think the question must have been rephrased something like 'sequence of numbers' or 'arranged in order'? Because I can take random sequence of numbers and can prove option 'e' will be correct for this.

Suppose I take list as 2, -3, 10, 4. In this case, both the conditions satisfy and still I end up in an ambiguous answer and s option 'e'.

Please let me know if I my thinking process is wrong.


the greatest and smallest numbers in your list are -3 and 10. the product of these two numbers isn't positive, so this list doesn't satisfy statement 1.

perhaps you are confusing "smallest" with "the first number mentioned", and "greatest" with "the last number mentioned". if so, this is a serious error; "smallest" and "greatest" mean, well, smallest and greatest.