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14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by gauravtyagigmat Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:27 am

A new study suggests that the conversational pace of everyday life may be so brisk it hampers the ability of some children for distinguishing discrete sounds and words and, the result is, to make sense of speech.
A. it hampers the ability of some children for distinguishing discrete sounds and words and, the result is, to make
B. that it hampers the ability of some children to distinguish discrete sounds and words and, as a result, to make
C. that it hampers the ability of some children to distinguish discrete sounds and words and, the result of this, they are unable to make
D. that it hampers the ability of some children to distinguish discrete sounds and words, and results in not making
E. as to hamper the ability of some children for distinguishing discrete sounds and words, resulting in being unable to make

OA is B

A. "for distinguishing" is incorrect, "to distinguish" is better
B. I marked it wrong because I thought "as a result" is incorret
D I marked D because hampers and results are parallel

1.Please explain why b "as a result" is correct
2. what does "as a result" means
whenever a noun or noun phrase is followed after "as" it means "in role of","equation" or "stage".
Please explain what understanding i am lacking

3.explain why hampers and results are not parallel in D
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by gauravtyagigmat Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:08 pm

Hi..
It is a humble request, do not consider my post unprofessional or rude.
I am posting it because I felt my post is lost.
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by RonPurewal Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:37 pm

We limit the number of posts we answer from non-paying users in a day. If you posted a huge number of queries on the same day, we probably left some of them unanswered. (We're considering limiting free users to, say, 10 or 20 posts, but so far that hasn't happened yet.)
That's the only thing I'm thinking as far as the "lost post" thing. If that wasn't the situation, then, sorry, looks like this one just slipped through.

gauravtyagigmat Wrote:what does "as a result" means


"As a result", by itself, is very similar to "thus" or "therefore". (The advantage of "as a result" over the other two constructions is that you can directly write "as a result of xxxx" if xxxx is the thing that caused something.)


whenever a noun or noun phrase is followed after "as" it means "in role of","equation" or "stage".
Please explain what understanding i am lacking


"As a result" doesn't follow a noun here, so I'm not seeing how this idea is relevant.
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by RonPurewal Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:38 pm

3.explain why hampers and results are not parallel in D


They should have different subjects.
The subject of "hampers" should be "it" = "conversational pace".
If "results" is a verb, then its subject shouldn't be the conversational pace itself; rather, it should be the idea that the speed of conversation hinders children's ability to distinguish words.
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by gauravtyagigmat Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:55 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
3.explain why hampers and results are not parallel in D


They should have different subjects.
The subject of "hampers" should be "it" = "conversational pace".
If "results" is a verb, then its subject shouldn't be the conversational pace itself; rather, it should be the idea that the speed of conversation hinders children's ability to distinguish words.


is it because of comma preceding "and" that result should have different subject.
( ", and result")

Generally we have comma before and for two things
1. when we have list of more than two
2. when we are suppose to connect two independent clause
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by gauravtyagigmat Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:04 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
gauravtyagigmat Wrote:what does "as a result" means


"As a result", by itself, is very similar to "thus" or "therefore". (The advantage of "as a result" over the other two constructions is that you can directly write "as a result of xxxx" if xxxx is the thing that caused something.)


whenever a noun or noun phrase is followed after "as" it means "in role of","equation" or "stage".
Please explain what understanding i am lacking


"As a result" doesn't follow a noun here, so I'm not seeing how this idea is relevant.


result is a noun in "as a result" hence does that means in the role of results


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That's the only thing I'm thinking as far as the "lost post" thing. If that wasn't the situation, then, sorry, looks like this one just slipped through.

But if someone is posting queries less than 10 then are you guys going to ans all queries be answered.
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by RonPurewal Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:53 am

gauravtyagigmat Wrote:result is a noun in "as a result" hence does that means in the role of results


I see what you mean, but it's easier to think of "as a result" as equivalent to "therefore" or "thus".

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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by Tadashi Tue May 06, 2014 6:27 am

Hi Ron.
A question about D.

comma is not tested in GMAT. so why B is wrong?
IMO, the conversational pace itself CAN NOT result in not making sense of speech.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by RonPurewal Thu May 08, 2014 4:41 am

Tadashi Wrote:comma is not tested in GMAT. so why B is wrong?
IMO, the conversational pace itself CAN NOT result in not making sense of speech.

Please correct me if I am wrong.


B is the correct answer.
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by Tadashi Mon May 12, 2014 6:11 am

Sorry, typo.

so why D is wrong?
IMO, the conversational pace itself CAN NOT result in not making sense of speech.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks,
Tadashi.
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by RonPurewal Mon May 12, 2014 5:00 pm

The problem with "...results in not making sense" is that it doesn't specify who doesn't make sense of things. As a result, the sentence is inadvertently describing the general phenomenon of "not making sense of xxxx".
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by RonPurewal Mon May 12, 2014 5:00 pm

Remember"”
When you have "x and y" (unless it's part of something like "between x and y"), each of "x" and "y" should make sense alone in the sentence.

In B, the parallel parts are "to distinguish..." and "to make..."
Try these:
it hampers the ability of some children to distinguish discrete sounds and words
it hampers the ability of some children to make sense of speech

Good.

In D, the parallel parts are "hampers..." and "results..."
it hampers the ability of some children to distinguish discrete sounds and words (fine)
it results in not making sense of speech (not fine, for the reason stated above)
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by RonPurewal Mon May 12, 2014 5:01 pm

Finally"”and perhaps most importantly"”the overall structure of B doesn't make sense.

B contains "hampers xxxx... AND results in yyyy". This construction implies that these are two separate, independent observations.
This doesn't make sense.

D also uses "and", but attaches "as a result" to the second part, thus implying that it is a result of the first part.
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by ZHUJ908 Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:51 am

RonPurewal Wrote:Finally"”and perhaps most importantly"”the overall structure of B doesn't make sense.

B contains "hampers xxxx... AND results in yyyy". This construction implies that these are two separate, independent observations.
This doesn't make sense.

D also uses "and", but attaches "as a result" to the second part, thus implying that it is a result of the first part.


Maybe a little typo here: B&D should be reversed since B is the correct answer, but I still get full understanding of option D.

Thanks a lot!
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Re: 14 nov 2013 A new study suggests that the conversational

by RonPurewal Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:10 am

yes, typo.

welcome to dyslexic land. (: